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Driver
1. Matt Kenseth
2. Jimmie Johnson
3. Kyle Busch
4. Kevin Harvick
5. Carl Edwards
6. Joey Logano
7. Greg Biffle
8. Clint Bowyer
9. Dale Earnhardt Jr.
10. Kurt Busch
11. Kasey Kahne
12. Martin Truex Jr.

Oh, well...maybe not quite accurate.

http://www.thatsracin.com/2013/09/09/113485/ap-sources-nascar-boots-truex.html

Hate it bad for Truex, since it seems he wasn't a knowing participant in the plan. I would have punted Bowyer out of the Chase instead. Truex raced with a broken wrist to get there.
 

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So both other teammates (not just the drivers) meaning the entire organization had to be in on it.

I mean they use Sopranos worthy code that had to be pre-communicated, other than in a Jack Ryan book/movie who could easily decode what was said and know what to do.

BS move on both the 55 and 15 teams, I think they need to fail a few inspections or miss races, financially it was a big fine but in the long run not a big deal.
 

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Jeff Gordon complaining about code of conduct has been violated.

How many times in the last couple of races of the year (in the past, pre chase) has Hendrick entered in multiple additional cars that then drop out, making it so that Gordon couldn't lose because he couldn't finish worst than 40th in the worst case scenario?

People let people go by them all the time on the track (as the case with Logano and Gilliland), pulling someone to the pits, and purposely spinning out is over the line. Even spinning yourself out the help yourself (June Bug so the caution would come out so he wouldn't go laps down pitting under green) is over the limit of fair manipulation.
 

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So here are my picks for the Chase:

  • Kurt Busch - Consistent and fast late in the season when it counts.
  • Kasey Kahne - The only one in the Hendrick stable with balls enough to keep JJ from getting #6.
  • Joey Logano - Sometimes guts is all you need, Private Pyle.
Kurt Busch, Matt Kenseth, and Jimmie Johnson are the only past champions in the bunch this year.

I don't care what anyone says about equality at HMS, you don't won't to be the guy that keeps JJ from getting #6.

Kurt is the only one who has been consistent and fast lately, so he's my pick.

I don't understand why he's wanting to be the fourth banana on any team. He must have some debt hanging over him from those big Penske paychecks.

An "outlaw" team seems to suit him better, but that's just me. :zdunno:
 

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I want Biffle to win, but I don't think it will happen.
I think Kurt Busch and Kyle Busch will do something stupid, Kurt Busch's pit crew will lose it for him, but I agree, I think he has the most momentum going in.
Jimmie Johnson's string of poor performances will continue.
Kasey Kahne is my favorite Hendricks driver, but I don't think he has the consistency to put together 10 strong races.
I think it will come down to Kenseth and Harvick, and Harvick will win.

I agree with Kurt Busch not belonging at a top tier team directly. The smaller team can take the personality and silly things that he does and not need to worry about appeasing a big sponsor. I think they did good things this year, I think everyone downplays the RCR relationship, I think that is the only reason they can run strong with the drivers that have done a pretty decent job, Regan Smith even won with them.
 

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Chicagoland Results

<p><table class="story-table"><col class="story-table-column"/><col class="story-table-column"/><col class="story-table-column"/><col class="story-table-column"/><col class="story-table-column"/><col class="story-table-column"/><col class="story-table-column"/><tbody class="story-table-body"><tr class="story-table-row"><td class="story-table-data">Fin</td><td class="story-table-data">St</td><td class="story-table-data">Driver</td><td class="story-table-data">Car</td><td class="story-table-data">Laps</td><td class="story-table-data"> *</td><td class="story-table-data">Pts</td></tr><tr class="story-table-row"><td class="story-table-data">1</td><td class="story-table-data">10</td><td class="story-table-data">Matt Kenseth</td><td class="story-table-data">Toyota</td><td class="story-table-data">267</td><td class="story-table-data"></td><td class="story-table-data">48</td></tr><tr class="story-table-row"><td class="story-table-data">2</td><td class="story-table-data">12</td><td class="story-table-data">Kyle Busch</td><td class="story-table-data">Toyota</td><td class="story-table-data">267</td><td class="story-table-data"></td><td class="story-table-data">43</td></tr><tr class="story-table-row"><td class="story-table-data">3</td><td class="story-table-data">17</td><td class="story-table-data">Kevin Harvick</td><td class="story-table-data">Chevy</td><td class="story-table-data">267</td><td class="story-table-data"></td><td class="story-table-data">42</td></tr><tr class="story-table-row"><td class="story-table-data">4</td><td class="story-table-data">16</td><td class="story-table-data">Kurt Busch</td><td class="story-table-data">Chevy</td><td class="story-table-data">267</td><td class="story-table-data"></td><td class="story-table-data">40</td></tr><tr class="story-table-row"><td class="story-table-data">5</td><td class="story-table-data">9</td><td class="story-table-data">Jimmie Johnson</td><td class="story-table-data">Chevy</td><td class="story-table-data">267</td><td class="story-table-data"></td><td class="story-table-data">40</td></tr><tr class="story-table-row"><td class="story-table-data">6</td><td class="story-table-data">6</td><td class="story-table-data">Jeff Gordon</td><td class="story-table-data">Chevy</td><td class="story-table-data">267</td><td class="story-table-data"></td><td class="story-table-data">39</td></tr><tr class="story-table-row"><td class="story-table-data">7</td><td class="story-table-data">2</td><td class="story-table-data">Brad Keselowski</td><td class="story-table-data">Ford</td><td class="story-table-data">267</td><td class="story-table-data"></td><td class="story-table-data">38</td></tr><tr class="story-table-row"><td class="story-table-data">8</td><td class="story-table-data">5</td><td class="story-table-data">Ricky Stenhouse Jr.</td><td class="story-table-data">Ford</td><td class="story-table-data">267</td><td class="story-table-data"></td><td class="story-table-data">36</td></tr><tr class="story-table-row"><td class="story-table-data">9</td><td class="story-table-data">24</td><td class="story-table-data">Clint Bowyer</td><td class="story-table-data">Toyota</td><td class="story-table-data">267</td><td class="story-table-data"></td><td class="story-table-data">35</td></tr><tr class="story-table-row"><td class="story-table-data">10</td><td class="story-table-data">20</td><td class="story-table-data">Ryan Newman</td><td class="story-table-data">Chevy</td><td class="story-table-data">267</td><td class="story-table-data"></td><td class="story-table-data">35</td></tr></tbody></table></p>
 
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