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what is easier pulling hp out of? and or what is the better car? in terms of weight? etc.


i found a 97 3.8 V6 5spd camaro.....would it be worth trading in my 93 3.8 V6? any benifits?

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Well, the V6 in those years had about 200 HP, and it's probably got a weight advantage of about 200-300 lbs minimum (I'm guessing), so it'll be faster....

Plus, that 3800 series engine was used in a ton of cars, including the Supercharged GTPs, Impalas, Monte Carlos, etc. So because of that, I'm assuming that there's a decent aftermarket for it, especially if you want to eventually go with forced induction.

Oh, and f bodies can be made to handle like they're on rails with the right upgrades. Basically, you can do anything you want to these cars that you can a V8 equipped car.

The cons would be the lack of a "real" back seat, and the fact that you might feel the urge to grow a mullet:tongue:
 

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Hmmmm, power wise they both have about the same potential. But stick shift is always fun, puts more power to the ground and the Camaro probably weighs less.
 

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A 200 hp 3.8 F-Body would stomp a 140 hp 3.8 MN12. Those F-Bodys with the 3.8 are probably capable of high 15's. Your '93 Thunderbird 3.8 is capable of mid-17's.
 

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I've been stomped by a 2000 V6 5 speed Camaro in my current car. He has only a CAI and cat back exhaust but the advantage lies in the 5 speed. Of the line I would conisistantly take him but from any sort of roll that I couldn't launch from, forget about it! I have a fairly modified 5.0 bird, capable of high 14's according to my friend's G tech, but it is brutally slow in its downshifts and will not hold a gear long enough or rather, lacks high end power, to race to any sort of speed.
 

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I look around a lot at Camaro forums (because I just bought one) and they say that the 3.8 Camaros can hang with Mustang GT's. Not the new GTs but the ones from the 90's.
 

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Having owned a 97 Camaro myself, I can tell you they can be fun cars. Mine was running high-14' s when I traded it for my Z. There is also a fairly decent aftermarket for them, and as 90Maroon said, short of the engine, anything that could be done to V8 car can be done to a V6 (suspension, brakes, etc.). If you like Camaros, take it for a test ride, see how you like it. If you want to make it fast, it' s fairly easy to get 13' s out of it, with a blower or nitrous. There are several forums where you can find a decent amount of advice on them, if you' d like to do some more research before purchase.
 

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lightevergreenfrost said:
Too bad you can total it with a butter knife. Those cars do use a lot of plastic/fiberglass body panels so be careful, the front half of those don't dent. I like those cars, only V8's, but they are a blast and seem so much nicer than a Stang.
The body will never rust though. And I believe that they have a very strong frame. They got 5 stars in the frontal crash test.
 

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It seems like there are perhaps a handful of mn12's that could hang with a v8 camaro. Its a sad world:(
 

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lightevergreenfrost said:
Too bad you can total it with a butter knife.
yea MN12's hold their value so much better, it's damned near impossible to total them out. :tongue:
 

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I'm pretty sure there are more V6 birds in the 11's then there are V6 camaro's...........

isn't too hard to hang with V8 camaro's, I have less than 3500$ into mine and it does so just fine.
 

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Put $3500 into a Camaro and you can easily hang with Vettes...
Go right ahead and put 3500$ into a 3.4L camaro and hang with vetts :rolleyes: My Tbird stock had no problems putting down mid 70's vetts :D (which run mid 17's stock)
 

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For pathetic smogged out 70's cars that's what they called "performance"...
 

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How about we put the $3500 into a Mark and make it run 12's. Or we can buy $3500 of the giggly gas, and put a 200 shot on my car and see if it can make it a fun 1/4th! 200 more hp, that would put my boat into the 10s! :D
 

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I look around a lot at Camaro forums (because I just bought one) and they say that the 3.8 Camaros can hang with Mustang GT's. Not the new GTs but the ones from the 90's.

The 350 TPI and 305 TPI camaroes couldnt hang with the 90's GT's..Unless the GT driver cant drive you dont have a chance

It all comes down to this..What do you want out of your car?..the 3.8 Tbird just isnt fast but its comfortable and will have a nicer ride then any camaro..AND can handle on rails if need be
 

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Go right ahead and put 3500$ into a 3.4L camaro and hang with vetts :rolleyes: My Tbird stock had no problems putting down mid 70's vetts :D (which run mid 17's stock)
Year Make & Model (0-60) (1/4 Mile)

1965 Chevrolet Corvette 6.2 14.9
1967 Chevrolet Corvette L71 5.6 13.8
1968 Chevrolet Corvette 327 7.7 15.6
1968 Chevrolet Corvette 427 6.3 14.1
1970 Chevrolet Corvette 427 6.1 14.3
1975 Chevrolet Corvette 350 9.6 16.4
1976 Chevrolet Corvette 350 8.1 16.5
1977 Chevrolet Corvette 8.8 16.6

1979 Chevrolet Corvette L82 7.3 15.7
1980 Chevrolet Corvette L82 7.4 15.4
1982 Chevrolet Corvette 9.2 16.6
1984 Chevrolet Corvette 6.7 15.1
1985 Chevrolet Corvette 5.7 14.1
1986 Chevrolet Corvette 5.8 14.4
1986 Chevrolet Corvette Convertible 6.0 14.5
1988 Chevrolet Corvette Convertible 6.0 14.6
1988 Chevrolet Corvette Z51 6.0 14.6
1990 Chevrolet Corvette 5.7 14.3

http://www.albeedigital.com/supercoupe/articles/0-60times.html
I don't see any mid 17's in there?

1989 Ford Thunderbird SC (5 Speed) 6.9 14.9
1990 Ford Thunderbird SC (Auto) 7.4 15.8
1991 Ford Thunderbird LX 9.0 16.7
1993 Ford Thunderbird SC 7.2 15.7
1994 Ford Thunderbird LX V6 8.8 16.4
1995 Ford Thunderbird SC 7.0 15.2
1996 Ford Thunderbird LX V8 7.9 15.8

1989 Mercury Cougar XR7 SC 7.4 15.7
1990 Mercury Cougar XR7 SC 7.4 15.7
1991 Mercury Cougar LS 9.4 17.1
1994 Mercury Cougar LS 8.5 16.4
Stock V6 MN12's and mid 70's 350 vettes seem to be running about the same #'s... given the choice of owning one money pit over the other I might just take the mid 70's vette to toy around with. :D

oh btw, you want mid 17's? That's what the mid 70's 460ci Tbird ran. :rofl:

1973 Ford Thunderbird 460ci 9.0 17.4
 
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