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50,000-Mile Update

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As I just hit the 50,000-mile mark, I thought it would be nice to reflect on what I have done so far, and how much it cost (approximate amounts to the best of my recollection).

This car has been wonderful to own, makes me feel great driving it, and just feels like it's made for me. Knock on wood, it'll continue to do so. Or make for a decent sale as I am considering returning to my home country of Germany.



  • New TRW upper and lower control arms: $1,200 (parts and labor; don't judge...I know I overpaid, oh well; all others are parts only, plus my own labor)
  • New fuel filter: $12
  • Two oil changes: 2x $40
  • Transmission fluid flush with Valvoline Mercon V: $75
  • New air filter: $12
  • New plugs, wires, and Motorcraft coil pack: $180
  • New belt: $25
  • New Continental Reliant tires: $400
  • Passenger side mirror: $20
  • Front valence panel: $15
  • Door striker bushings: $0
  • Passenger side door weather seal: $10
  • Auto-dimming inside rearview mirror: $16
  • Faux suede trim, incl. adhesive: $70
  • Genuine walnut wood pieces: $40
  • Leather-wrapped door release handles and shift knob: $15
  • Leatherette-wrapped armrest: $15
  • Leather headrests with custom stitching front and rear, tilting in front: $60
  • DRL with Zevo LEDs and relay: $35
  • Zevo LED taillights and LED-friendly flasher: $35
  • Cornering lights: $25
  • Door panel and center console ambient lighting: $10
  • Door courtesy lights plus interior LED bulbs: $40
  • Center console cubby (repositioned 12V outlet): $10
  • Center console armrest support (using pre-97 cupholder plus custom support): $10
  • Silencer removal with custom mesh rodent guard: $0
  • O2 sensor connector reposition (which cleared P0156 code): $0
  • Various interior cleaning/shampooing exercises
:unsure: Did I miss anything?

Comes to a total of $2,410. Considering that this is a budget operation, that's a lot of money; but I realize many people spend way more.
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Even with hours aside, thats not a lot of money. Its a great car. Pushing on 160K with 5 owners and no carfax history here.
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My '97 Sport just clocked 68K miles, with very little ever needing to be done during all the years I've owned her. She's my daily and been garaged her whole life.
The only 'major' repairs I've done are replacing the belt tensioner, turn signal assembly, the window regulator gear plugs, and a couple of coolant temp sensors when I replaced the hoses. Other than that, it's just been the usual maintenance items, such as fluids, filters, tires, etc. I don't mod her at all, because I like to keep her as close to factory as possible.

Sure, they've got their quirks, but I'm always impressed at how well Ford designed these cars, their general ease of maintenance/repairs, their overall high-quality, and the beating they can take & keep going (I also had an '89 Bird that had the hell beat out of her over the years, but just wouldn't die. Finally sold her after I bought the '97).

Love these cars...except for the location of that damn oil filter...because I can't get my arms into there without tearing them up.

Photo: My Bird in her natural habitat...LOL
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Could you import it to Germany :)? You would probably be one of the very few on the road. Rumor I have heard is the suspension on these cars was modeled after the 6 series BMW.
**Edit meant to put 6 series
Could you import it to Germany :)?
Theoretically yes...but I think it would be cost prohibitive.
Could you import it to Germany :)? You would probably be one of the very few on the road. Rumor I have heard is the suspension on these cars was modeled after the 5 series BMW.
Is that so, likely in partnership with Jaguar?
Is that so, likely in partnership with Jaguar?
I think MN12 development predates Ford's involvement with Jaguar, but they benchmarked against the BMW 6-Series I think.

That said, when you look at the suspension of a Lincoln LS/Jaguar S-Type, it does look quite similar.
I think MN12 development predates Ford's involvement with Jaguar, but they benchmarked against the BMW 6-Series I think.

That said, when you look at the suspension of a Lincoln LS/Jaguar S-Type, it does look quite similar.
That's because the LS and S-Type share the same underpinnings.

And yup, the MN12 had its sights set firmly on the BMW 6 Series. Coilovers and a multilink suspension on an American touring coupe? They didn't get that idea from Detroit in 1989.
That's because the LS and S-Type share the same underpinnings.
I know that...lol.
I meant similar to the MN12. I think they also have that load-bearing lower ball joint which I always find somewhat scary.
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I know that...lol.
I meant similar to the MN12. I think they also have that load-bearing lower ball joint which I always find somewhat scary.
It's early. You can't expect me to read good this early. :LOL:
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Ford benchmarked the performance and styling of BMW but the mechanical executions were way different, no BMW 5 or 6 series had a front suspension anything like these, they had L arm lower control arms and MacPherson struts, our cars use SLA with strut rods which frankly is more of an evolution of what Falcons and early Mustangs used for front suspension way back in the 60s. The IRS is different as well since it to is SLA with a lower H arm, rather than trailing arms like the Germans tend to, I don’t know for sure but I’d speculate it’s probably more influenced by the classic Jaguar IRS.

The DEW98 platform may have some MN12 DNA in it, it’s not well documented but given the MN12’s structural similarities it was likely used as the starting point, certain things like the shock towers besr an uncanny resemblance between the platforms. Tbirds were even used as test mules for the suspensions and drivetrains, there’s an old article somewhere titeled “Dewbirds” that goes into it a bit.

That's because the LS and S-Type share the same underpinnings.

And yup, the MN12 had its sights set firmly on the BMW 6 Series. Coilovers and a multilink suspension on an American touring coupe? They didn't get that idea from Detroit in 1989.
They got it from Detroit in 1961 😉

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Great info as always Matt, but still, Ford obviously copied the 6 series in almost every way.....



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Wash day pics...







Meanwhile, I finally followed the workshop manual procedure to adjust the trunk lid torsion bars (using the self-made tool). I did manage to move the LH bar from notch 1 to notch 2, but...it's seriously a suicide mission which is why I won't post any directions here. I'm glad my trunk lid doesn't self-close anymore, but it was pure luck.
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I found it quite easy with the tool from the manual.
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I've never had a problem with the trunk lid, even after adding the spoiler to it. I can leave it partially open and it will stay there, maybe it's luck on my part! :unsure:

Joe
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I found it quite easy with the tool from the manual.
Well, mine slipped off as I was pulling. Fortunately that happened a split second after it had reached that notch 2, so everything went ok. But I can't in good conscience recommend that procedure to anyone.

Since you're pulling backwards and slightly upwards, the height of the person doing it may play a role. If you're taller, i.e., you have a more upward pull, it may be safer (?).
I've never had a problem with the trunk lid, even after adding the spoiler to it. I can leave it partially open and it will stay there, maybe it's luck on my part! :unsure:
Oh my, yeah, definitely lucky.

Before I fixed mine, the slightest amount of wind would shut it. Even worse, when driving the front wheels up my ramps, the lid wouldn't stay open at all.
Your Tbird looks great! The green paint with the tan interior is a nice combination. It's such an uncommon, well mostly unseen color combination these days. Looks very clean as well!

I also would recommend to just leave the trunk torsion springs alone. I completely removed them, needless to say it was an undertaking to get them back in.
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I've never had a problem with the trunk lid, even after adding the spoiler to it. I can leave it partially open and it will stay there, maybe it's luck on my part! :unsure:

Joe
Mine too, frankly my trunklid was a little too eager to open before I added the sport wing. I thought about pulling the torsion bar to the next notch since it was kind of a fun party trick shooting straight up with a touch of a button but it stays up fine as is.
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My old 95 would not pop open on its own but would stay up until a strong wind hit, then it would slam shut as I cringed. It had a spoiler.
My 97 pops fully open with a touch of the button, though lately that has diminished. It has a spoiler.
IIRC, our old 96 popped open, but just two inches, we'll call that one a "tweener". I think the 97 is heading that way, I guess those things wear out.

Al
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