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I'm going to pull my motor out tomorrow. I rented a host and it came with a two sided chain. At the end of each chain there is a welded piece with a hole to allow a bolt to go through.

I took the intake off.

My question: Are the intake bolts strong enough to pull the motor out? One screwed into the rear passenger head, and the other front drivers head. Those bolts look kinda skinny and two of those bolts don't really convince me to hold all that weight. But maybe im wrong and thats how its done.

Or should I lift from the side holes right under the valve covers on the side of the cylinder heads? If so... what size bolts go into those holes?

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do not lift from the cylinder heads you will put un-needed force on the one time use headbolts, lift from the alternator mounting holes in the front of the block, and the transmission bell housing top mounting bolts
 

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Thank you.

So just use the stock alternator and bell housing bolts?
 

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do not lift from the cylinder heads you will put un-needed force on the one time use headbolts, lift from the alternator mounting holes in the front of the block, and the transmission bell housing top mounting bolts
before i read this i was gonna say the same.

+1 this is the way to do it
 

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Thanks guys. I went and bought bolts so I don't use the stockers.
 

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Ok I have the motor out....

How the heck do I take the torque converter off the motor?
 

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Well, with the motor not mated up to the trans anymore, its gonna be fun. You are going to have to find some way of keeping the motor from spinning while you loosen the TC nuts. Loosen 1 nut, then spin the motor to get to the next, and so on. I've never tried removing a TC while it was attached to the motor, so someone else may have a better way.

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Yeah I just saw the nuts... tried taken one off and spins the motor. Its a metric nut right? I have a 14 and its to small... 16 to big... guess im off to buy a 15.

Seems like it might be standard size... 1/2 or 9/16's?
 

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Cool thanks...

Looks like your oil filter took a beating ;)
 

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Yeah I just saw the nuts... tried taken one off and spins the motor. Its a metric nut right? I have a 14 and its to small... 16 to big... guess im off to buy a 15.

Seems like it might be standard size... 1/2 or 9/16's?
I seem to remember them being 14mm. If 14mm absolutely will not fit, try a 9/16". A 15mm will be too large. I highly recommend using a 6-point socket, and make sure that you're fully seated on the nuts before trying to break them loose. Those nuts are relatively soft, meaning that it is easy to strip them.

-Rod
 

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Thanks guys. Well before I saw these messages I went out and bought a 15 and a 9/16's. I tried the 15 first on the 8 point side and it was a pretty snug fit.... the nuts were not very square to begin with, I can tell they had been worked. So the 15 needed to be slightly tapped in. I didn't even try the 9/16, that might be the correct one if the nuts were perfect.

I just shocked them with a rubber mallet and they broke loose without having to stop the motor from turning.

Ill see tomorrow if the 9/16's fit... just to know what size those nuts really are.
 

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I would recommend getting some new nuts from the dealership before you put it back in. If you look at a new nut they are slightly oblong to lock them in place. I would also recommend installing the torque converter in the trans before putting the motor back in
 

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I would recommend getting some new nuts from the dealership before you put it back in. If you look at a new nut they are slightly oblong to lock them in place. I would also recommend installing the torque converter in the trans before putting the motor back in
Ill pick up some new nuts.... mine are pretty used up anyways :eek: :D

But if I put the TC on the tranny how do I secure the adapter plate onto the flex plate? Seems that the tranny and motor would almost have to be sealed to mate those nuts back on.
 

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The torque converter is easily rotated once in the transmission so it's just a matter of lining up the bolts with the flexplate while putting the engine in place. The only other option is to bolt the trans to the motor and install together. Read thorough some of the threads on seating the converter....if it's not fully seated when you bolt it together the whole assembly will be locked
 

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The torque converter is easily rotated once in the transmission so it's just a matter of lining up the bolts with the flexplate while putting the engine in place. The only other option is to bolt the trans to the motor and install together. Read thorough some of the threads on seating the converter....if it's not fully seated when you bolt it together the whole assembly will be locked
Ok thank you.

My nuts that connect the adapter plate to the flex plate are 15mm. It might be 9/16's on your 4r70's... but my 5R55W has 15mm nuts.
 
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