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I've been reading in here pretty much all morning, and see lots of tips and helps on the 'newer' MN12 and FN10 'Birds. Anyone out there besides me with a still surviving Fox body T'Duck?

I've got the old CFI system on my Quacker, and am wondering if I have any options for converting it to EFI, speed density suits me just fine. If the rework for a SD system on this thing is that big a deal, then perhaps MAF is in order.

I bought the car new in December 1985, and right now, it serves as a daily driver for the better half. The ex overheated it once when the bypass hose blew, and until an ace mechanic left a rag under the intake for me, the car leaked coolant and oil like a seive. I've NEVER had an issue with blown headgaskets, but the original engine only had 63000 on it when the rag episode led to a new long-block. I had that installed by a dealer, much to my chagrin, and just recently had to replace the timing cover gasket, etc, because of very poor quality work.

I plan on turning it into a project car when I can get a decent mini-van for her. New paint, 5 lug conversion for better wheels, etc. I'd dearly love to drop in an engine from an SC, but that appears to be a wiring nightmare. An AOD wouldn't hurt my feelings or the car's fuel mileage either.

I love the old duck because it drives like it's on rails. Always has, albeit it's always had wobbly wheels. I think it was probably pulled down too tight on the transporter, but could never get the dealer to warranty the wheels. The ex did a bit of interior damage, but nothing that seems impossible to fix, assuming I can find the parts or someone to make new ones.

This is the first new car I ever bought, so some might be able to understand why I'm hanging on to it. But, if I'm gonna do that, I need a lot more resources for parts than seem to be available. Most of the junkyards around here tend to crush anything over 15 years old. The body's in excellent condition minus a few small dings by the ex, and Wile E. Coyote mistaking the T-Bird for a road runner at 80 mph. I was impressed at how well the old girl fared when I hit the coyote. Bent the radiator support a little, but a comealong and heavy persuasions stick fixed that right up. The clear-coat on it is toast, but nothing a paint job won't handle. ZERO rust on it. Not bad at all for a 21 year old car.

I'm fairly handy with a wrench, and not a bit afraid to tackle engine rebuilds (I own a VW, need I say more?). I don't think I'll be needing a rebuild for a long time, though, since this engine's only got about 30K on it. The only reason I bought a long block from a dealer was warranty issues versus replacing it with a used car with no warranty at all. Seemed like a no-brainer at the time, but hind-sight is 20/20. I'm fairly well versed in EEC-IV OBD-I technology because of the same system on the Bird and the F-150. It became a matter of necessity because of lousy mechanics at dealerships in the area.

So, if ya got an old Fox body, and know of some good resources, thanks in advance for any tips/tricks.
 

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Geez, I must be old or seeing 1986 for a car model year scared everyone.
 

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nah not at all , but most of us here have mn12s i would look for a donor mustang for a efi swap with mass air , the sd 5.0 is a lame duck
 

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I gotta 88 3.8..come to foxtbirdcougarforums.com and tstacc.com
 

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I've owned 4 fox based t-birds, my favorite was a 1985 tc that I put a 351w in with a t-5 world class 5 spd, 8.8 from a 87. LOVED that car wife didn't , any how I probably have 15 or 20 1983 to 1988 tbirds or cougars in my yard, I just can't crush em, anyhow if it's easy to ship I'll sell you anything you want ;)
 

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fubar107 said:
I've owned 4 fox based t-birds, my favorite was a 1985 tc that I put a 351w in with a t-5 world class 5 spd, 8.8 from a 87. LOVED that car wife didn't , any how I probably have 15 or 20 1983 to 1988 tbirds or cougars in my yard, I just can't crush em, anyhow if it's easy to ship I'll sell you anything you want ;)
Hmm, got a full set of the 15" 10-hole aluminum wheels that came on the Elan's and TC's? If so, whatcha askin for 'em? Could use a charcoal grey pass side sun visor. Ex managed to set the original on fire somehow. Lessee, what else ...
Ummm, front valance (bumper cover) for 86 base bird model? Hood release knob?

I'm keeping it as factory as possible for now, but have always HATED the OE rubber stylized wheels. I'm sure it was pulled down on the carrier too tight, because it's wobbled at low speed and has a pretty nasty vibration at highway speed since I bought it brand new in December '85. Gimme a price on the wheels and lessee if we can do some business.
 

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I gotta 88 3.8..come to foxtbirdcougarforums.com and tstacc.com
Thanx for the links. Will check 'em out tomorrow.
 

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I think I have a set of phone dial wheels left, I'll have to look, I'm sure I have the hood release and visor, I don't know if I have a "nice" bumper cover I'll have to check on that also.
 

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I just bought an 86 in need of headgaskets and a few other things. Not much help on "resources" other than the links above but I am nearby, that is if you live in southern AL.
 

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We have a dark blue, non metalic, original and shiney Midnight Regatta Blue 1985 Thunderbird with the 302 throttle body fuel inj and AOD / 2.73 combo that I've had since Feb. 1986. I added the TC front bumper cover and A&A Fibreglass deck spoiler, 10 hole 15x7s and 225/60-15s, and Konis in the late '80s. It has 140,527 miles as of tonight. Picture below taken Fall of 2006 (yes, she has seen a lot of time under a car cover or on a carport.).



Once on a long trip back in the late '80s when the natl limit was still 55 mph, we saw 341 miles on 11.2 gallons of gasoline, mostly flat interstate but at 55-57 mph. Thats good gas mileage. It now needs a tune up perhaps, some minor adjustments, mileage is more like 24-26 at 65ish in the hilly interstates, still no oil use. One radiator, hoses, water pump, and maintenance. It's been a great car and the trans is perfect since I fixed the bushing in the TVRod at the throttle body (it was just loose, never fell off).;)

And then we have a recently aquired Dark Plum Metalic Clearcoated 1992 302 Sport / AOD/ 3.08 car.

 

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I have an '83 Tbird that I have had since '97. I bought it from the original owner, and he told me that it had never seen snow. i know for a fact that it hasn't seen snow since I bought it. I have done a lot of work to it. It was fuel injected when I bought it. It now has a Edelbrock 4 Barrel resting on an Performer RPM intake. New cam, poerted and polished E-7 heads. I don't remember the specs for anything right now. It also has a full set of Ground Effects, Rear window louvers, and 8.8 with 3.73 from an '88 TC and a few other misc. things.





 

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Nice 85 CrystalPistol
Thanks, I was going to say the same about 83Heritage's Bird.

We purchased the 92 and had planned to sell the '85 in October, but couldn't bring ourselves to do so so we just got new tags for both (ones on the 85 were showing some age).

Too much left in her. :)
 

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Hi;

I have an 85 Cougar, original owner under 75K and currently in repaint. Hope to have it running for spring driving season. Gotta work faster... :(
 

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Check it. http://www.cardomain.com/id/ipsd1 Then you'll see. I only bought my MN12 because it was a steal. Also this way I can take my Fox bird off the road and finish making it the nice day sunday driver or for the hot rod cruises they have around here. Well the cruise around here are where any one can be in it. It is Branson MO.
 

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I have two 1985 Cougars one is a GS and the other is a XR/7 . the GS has 43k miles I bought brand new. the XR/7 I bought a couple of years ago it has 144k miles and still runs great , both are bone stock .

<img src="http://i165.photobucket.com/albums/u78/blknredcougar/pic8.jpg">
 

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That is one sharp looking Cougar. Wish my 84 T-bird looked that good. I will before to long.
 

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Old paint, check out my 86'. I would check out those other websites listed above. They are a good resource for info and parts for our Fox Birds :D

John
 

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I have two 1985 Cougars one is a GS and the other is a XR/7 . the GS has 43k miles I bought brand new. the XR/7 I bought a couple of years ago it has 144k miles and still runs great , both are bone stock .
Nice Cat! We call that a "cream puff" where I come from. :cool:
 
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