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i was just curious as to wether or not anyone has made any progress or completed a t-56 swap or not? any pics or any info would be great!
 

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I finally got my T-56 in my 93 5.0 TBird. It was finally complete after putting the car in the shop back in May. To make a long story short, it looks and works great, was more expensive then I thought(had to replace the eng as well) and was a lot of work(I did all the interior work and the shop did the tranny swap itself. Gained 50-60 hp from the auto and torque stayed relatively the same (It dynoed at 377hp and 370ft/lbs). When I have a chance I will post some pics and the entire parts inventory that I had to buy to get it running. The sad thing is I am thinking about selling it now.
 

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So you have any pics of this creature.....
 

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John said:
I finally got my T-56 in my 93 5.0 TBird. It was finally complete after putting the car in the shop back in May. To make a long story short, it looks and works great, was more expensive then I thought(had to replace the eng as well) and was a lot of work(I did all the interior work and the shop did the tranny swap itself. Gained 50-60 hp from the auto and torque stayed relatively the same (It dynoed at 377hp and 370ft/lbs). When I have a chance I will post some pics and the entire parts inventory that I had to buy to get it running. The sad thing is I am thinking about selling it now.
That's awesome. More details on the fitment of this setup would be great. I'm considering doing this down the road and any specifics you can provide would be great.
 

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Tonight I will try to do a break down of the price. I only have a couple of pictures of just the shifter area. The shop that did the tranny swap had it for so long that when they finished it I really didn't have a chance to take pictures of the underside. I can tell you right now that I did use almost all McLeod tranny parts which are a little more expensive but all mated to each other perfectly. An example was that I tried to use a cheaper flywheel but the Mcleod clutch would not mate to it right so we just went with all McLeod parts to make sure we wouldn't be wasting more time. Off the top of my head the tranny cost $1000 dollars plus about $900 for upgrades to it and inspecting it(pretty much it is stronger and close to new as possible). All the McLeod parts were probably $1000 but I can get a better figure tonight. All the used parts prices can be had for anything that you can negotiate to. Got everything off this site, the SCCOA site or that site that sell used parts from junk yards around the country(forgot the site name). Then there were the odds and ends like the SpeedCal, shifter arm, shifter ball, clutch master cylinder, lines etc. So parts alone including tranny is probably atleast $3500 with labor another story! The most surprising part of the swap was there were only two thing that had to be fabricated. The tranny mount and the shifter tunnel. Both ended up to be pretty easy solutions. The shop just cut and welded on an older style pontiac tranny mount to the TBird crossmember. Looked and fit great. For the tunnel the guy had to cut about an inch or two forward on the tunnel for the shifter to come up and then made the SC tunnel cover fit perfectly over it. I had to trim the plastic console about and inch to make sure the shifter didn't hit the plastic. I think you can get buy without doing any of the tunnel/plastic cutting if you go with the GTO shifter assembly on the T-56 but I don't know how much that will set you back. I also got a used MarkVIII one piece shaft that the shop shortened and fit perfectly. Will try to get some part numbers and prices and pictures tonight. I don't have the site permission to put pictures up so someone might have to host it.
 

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Tonight I will try to do a break down of the price. I only have a couple of pictures of just the shifter area. The shop that did the tranny swap had it for so long that when they finished it I really didn't have a chance to take pictures of the underside. I can tell you right now that I did use almost all McLeod tranny parts which are a little more expensive but all mated to each other perfectly. An example was that I tried to use a cheaper flywheel but the Mcleod clutch would not mate to it right so we just went with all McLeod parts to make sure we wouldn't be wasting more time. Off the top of my head the tranny cost $1000 dollars plus about $900 for upgrades to it and inspecting it(pretty much it is stronger and close to new as possible). All the McLeod parts were probably $1000 but I can get a better figure tonight. All the used parts prices can be had for anything that you can negotiate to. Got everything off this site, the SCCOA site or that site that sell used parts from junk yards around the country(forgot the site name). Then there were the odds and ends like the SpeedCal, shifter arm, shifter ball, clutch master cylinder, lines etc. So parts alone including tranny is probably atleast $3500 with labor another story! The most surprising part of the swap was there were only two thing that had to be fabricated. The tranny mount and the shifter tunnel. Both ended up to be pretty easy solutions. The shop just cut and welded on an older style pontiac tranny mount to the TBird crossmember. Looked and fit great. For the tunnel the guy had to cut about an inch or two forward on the tunnel for the shifter to come up and then made the SC tunnel cover fit perfectly over it. I had to trim the plastic console about and inch to make sure the shifter didn't hit the plastic. I think you can get buy without doing any of the tunnel/plastic cutting if you go with the GTO shifter assembly on the T-56 but I don't know how much that will set you back. I also got a used MarkVIII one piece shaft that the shop shortened and fit perfectly. Will try to get some part numbers and prices and pictures tonight. I don't have the site permission to put pictures up so someone might have to host it.
Send them to me in e-mail (drop me a PM to get it) and I'll host them for you.
 

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still waiting for the pictures....
 

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That's awesome. More details on the fitment of this setup would be great. I'm considering doing this down the road and any specifics you can provide would be great.
Is it dibs yet on your dirtyd0g tranny yet? :D

My tranny's holding out for now (barely), and this 6 speed swap is getting very interesting. A Viper gear set 6 speed sounds a lot better than a Mazda P.U. gear set 5 speed with that kizillion to 1st gear ratio. This might be actually be worth pulling the dash for!

I'm just waiting for the [email protected] (pics).

That is all...
 

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Is it dibs yet on your dirtyd0g tranny yet? :D

My tranny's holding out for now (barely), and this 6 speed swap is getting very interesting. A Viper gear set 6 speed sounds a lot better than a Mazda P.U. gear set 5 speed with that kizillion to 1st gear ratio. This might be actually be worth pulling the dash for!

I'm just waiting for the [email protected] (pics).

That is all...
Hehe, it may be about 2 years before I do something like this. Can you wait? ;)
 

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Just sent the pics to MaddMartigan. After taking pics I saw one more fabrication. I made a triangular plate to fit behind the Wilwood clutch master cylinder to help reinforce the firewall. I made 3 holes in it so the studs from the clutch pedal assembly to attach to and welded 2 studs on the plate for the wilwood master cylinder to attach to. That worked perfectly. Got the idea from someone on SCCOA since the firewall was really thin and they said that overtime with pushing in the clutch that the firewall starts to crack. This is on stock SC as well. Hope you like the pics. I tried to get an undercar shot of the tranny but it didn't work out. Sorry!
 

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Here are some of my part numbers and prices:
McLeod Parts
MCL-260870R Disk Hubs $166.99
MCL-360048 Diaphram Pressure Plate 173.69
MCL-8750-06 Modular Bellhousing 374.39
MCL-1400-22 Hyd Throw-out Bearing 339.95
MCL-1429 Bearing Spacer 24.00
MCL-463200-28 Flywheel 280.95 *** This is for a 28oz balance (my engine is 28oz balance) and the shop made a mistake and got me a flywheel for a 351 so I had to get a new starter as well. You will not need to do this if you get the correct flywheel. I just kept it since my starter was original anyway so they replaced it with a 351 starter.
Other Parts:
Used 98 Firebird T-56 $1000 plus
D&D Upgraded 3/4 shift fork, 3/4 steel spacers $159.00
Upgraded 5/6 gear main shaft and Tranny teardown/clean and inspection 900.00
Wilwood Master cylinder 260-1304 49.95
Pilot bearing 6202-2rsj 17.75 Just do a search on internet for who sells it.
Ford Pressure plate mounting/Dowel M6397a302 13.95
Ford clutch switch assembly 1c3z 11a152 aa 69.87
Reverse Light Harness 12117379 42.28
Driveshaft MarkViii 30.00 + 156.00 install ujoints, shorten and balance
Ujoints and balance weights 134.11
Speedcal 9910er 124.98 They said I wouldn't get the correct speed settings but the day I drove off I picked the code from their sheet for 4.11 gears to 2.73 original gears (I have 3.73 gears to whatever our original gear setting is) and the speed was almost perfect. I could probably use the code for 4.10 gear to 2.73 ratio to be perfect.
Shifter ball I think I paid around 60.00
Shifter arm I think the shop threw it in for free but it is the one that bends to the rear like a "Z"
Probably a few other odds and ends like fluids and hyd lines and bolts but I think that would be it besides all the Supercoupe parts you need to get used and then the tune which Lonnie can do. Hope this helps. I think the total comes closer to $4000 now that I look it all over. Moderators should use this as a sticky so that everyone can see it!
 

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One other small modification I did was the Wilwood clutch mastercylinder rod does not come with the right connection for the SC clutch pedal. The rod is just threaded at the end. All I did was thread a female to female connector on the rod end and welded a SC clutch rod to the other end of the connector to mate with the clutch pedal. I actually had to shorten the Wilwood rod end (threaded area) before putting the connector on to get the right fit on the clutch pedal. I guess you can do it the other way around by test fitting the SC rod and cut that prior to welding it on the connector. Using the female to female connector give you some adjustability for rod length. You can get a $10.00 plastic SC clutch rod clip from ford to lock the pedal to the rod.
 

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Pretty sweet ehh. thats pics of my 6-speed t-56 swap

Lets try something along the lines of this...
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If you were reading the posts I told you why I didn't get an under car pic. If you really want a pic of the tranny (which by the way yours looks almost just like mine except for the mount) then you are going to be waiting for some time...probably when I need to change the oil which is in another 3-5 months. Is there a reason for the hurry.....
 

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No reason at all....take all the time you need. :zspot:
 

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John, all I can say, is that for the brief seconds I saw your car on the street the other day over by Funderbirds, I knew that car was a beast. I just wish to see it before I leave San Diego.
 

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I am sure we will meet up during a san diego get together or if you come across me coming home from work I will stop so we can meet. I will be in San diego for a good amount of time(unless deployed) so I am sure it will happen.
 

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ya found yer camera yet? still waiting for pics....
 
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