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of course we are. How often do you ride a greyhound bus? Its a cesspool of failure. My Ruger goes where i go, I have nothing to fear. Just like I said before....The valley of the shadow of death? **** the valley and its shadows. If you walk around in fear and paranoia, you become the sheep..bahhh.
 

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no i do not ride greyhound or any public transportation for that matter, yes for the most part there in no need to be alarmed, but also you never know and im not so sure your ruger would have saved you here..
From the story the suspect and victim had not even spoke to one another, he just started slicing him up.....un fkin believable.
 

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I heard about this and was reading up on it. What I really don't understand is what the guy was thinking. He is 40y/o with no criminal history, and then all of a sudden out of nowhere he just brutally murders and decapitates someone in front of 30-40 witnesses. I really want to know what was going through his mind when he decided to do this. Unfortunately I haven't found anything more than basically what info was on that article. I would be curious to see an interview with the guy.
 

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What the HELL is with these type of people???? Seriously.... WTF!!! The kid apparently did nothing to provoke this. I would've shot his a** if I had a gun. Unreal.
What is with them? I think they're, um, f'd in the head.
 

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wow it pisses me off he has the same first name as me he doesnt deserve that name....personally i think his punishment should be to have hsi head removed in the same fashion eye for an eye...it may make the world go blind but then **** like this cant happen if everyone is blind
 

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we are safe places, but i was always scared to use public transportation. It never was safe in the first place.
 

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Because they were all unarmed like they shouldn't have been. Are you, the unarmed civilian, going to attack a crazy guy with a hunting knife?
I'd have to say yes. The sanctity of innocent human life must be defended. In all honesty, I'd have almost certainly been unarmed and may very well have ended up as victim number 2, but I could not live with myself if I did nothing. I must admit, I've never been in a situation even close to that, so I hope that I would have the backbone to try to stop the attack, and I do believe I would. I hope I never have to make that choice, of course.
 

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Because they were all unarmed like they shouldn't have been. Are you, the unarmed civilian, going to attack a crazy guy with a hunting knife?
The people at the church in Tennessee were unarmed, yet they stopped the attacker . . . and that guy was armed with more than a hunting knife. Unarmed people stopped the situation on Flight 93.

Just because you don't have a gun/machete/etc. doesn't mean that you and those around just have to sit there and watch someone saw another guys head off/shoot fellow parishoners/etc.
 

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Congrats, you can compare apples to oranges to pears. Different situations, circumstances, and people involved. And who said that unarmed civilians could never resolve the situation? I can 100% guarantee you that if 1 person, just 1 person, was armed, the bus situation could have been played out a whole different way.

Flight 93??? Yeah, they stopped the terrorists alright, but look what happened to them in the end. Personally, and I'm sure those poor people would feel the same way if they were here, I don't want to have to die to stop someone if I don't have to.

Sure, the shooter at the church was stopped, but why did one of the church members have to take a shotgun blast first? No logic here.

Stories like this are the reasons why I carry. I don't want to be the victim in the next one.

How about these?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L8oEO_MV57I
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nDs-yGTdPFo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-t_htoRmJIw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TLXTnUPhKOY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=36F1ni2jzO0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rWTQRXF4qFw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1LuZlE3nSg0

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Congrats, you can compare apples to oranges to pears. Different situations, circumstances, and people involved. And who said that unarmed civilians could never resolve the situation? I can 100% guarantee you that if 1 person, just 1 person, was armed, the bus situation could have been played out a whole different way.

Flight 93??? Yeah, they stopped the terrorists alright, but look what happened to them in the end. Personally, and I'm sure those poor people would feel the same way if they were here, I don't want to have to die to stop someone if I don't have to.

Sure, the shooter at the church was stopped, but why did one of the church members have to take a shotgun blast first? No logic here.

Stories like this are the reasons why I carry. I don't want to be the victim in the next one.

How about these?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L8oEO_MV57I
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nDs-yGTdPFo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-t_htoRmJIw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TLXTnUPhKOY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=36F1ni2jzO0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rWTQRXF4qFw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1LuZlE3nSg0

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The point of what Ryan was saying is that the mindset is the important factor, the tools are farther down the list. There are plenty of people that have guns but don't necessarily have the "sheepdog" mindset, the will to win, or simply think that a 9mm on their belt is the solution to any problem that could arise. The other examples given were examples of unarmed people with the mindset to act, survive, and protect others in the face of lethal situations.

That said, I'm all for an armed populace; I carry one (or two) guns nearly everywhere I go. They are in my opinion the best tools I can have at my disposal.
 

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I'd have to say yes. The sanctity of innocent human life must be defended. In all honesty, I'd have almost certainly been unarmed and may very well have ended up as victim number 2, but I could not live with myself if I did nothing. I must admit, I've never been in a situation even close to that, so I hope that I would have the backbone to try to stop the attack, and I do believe I would. I hope I never have to make that choice, of course.
Dude, The wife and I were having this conversation to my parents house, and I had said, how can this happen, how can poeple let this happen in front of thier eyes?? I said to her I would have done something, jumped on his back, started choking him out, all it takes is one person to defend life, and like sheep others will help. I just can't believe for the life of me that they made that dude the "Sacrificial Lamb"
 

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none of those people stopped the fruitcake because none of them value the lives of their fellow citizens. Armed or not, I refuse to be a victim, a number, a statistic, an obituary listing. No one holds the keys to my life other than me. If you attack, you had better kill me...and yes, if i stop a forcible felony with a .380 hollow point, I will go have a venti java chip frappachuino.
 

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if i had a bat or something blunt, then i would of maybe helped out. But what are you going to do. They guy was already stabbed multiple times and already dead. If he was going after someone else on the bus, then get a gang of you to take him down, but if he's leaving you all alone, why provoke him more. I'm all for defending and helping out, but sometimes you just need to think if its worth it, and what could happen.

I could be wrong, but thats what i think. I'm not going to risk my own life, and possibly the lives of others on the bus to save a guy that was already dead....

dont hate me
 
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