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My T-Bird is a second car these days, and only comes out in the warm weather. I've ust finished getting some rocker rust repaired, and have completely undersealed and wax injected the whole car. I left home in the T-Bird to go to work yesterday morning, and 5 minutes into the trip, this happened:

The woman in the shot is the person responsible.


She lauched her Fiat out of a side road as I was travelling along at about 35mph, completely oblivious to me even being there. I swerved to avoid her but couldn't. Although she'd set off from a standstill, it was quite a heavy impact. I smacked my head on the door frame, and the door is jammed shut - had to climb over the passenger side to get out. The door frame is distorted, door panel, rear wing, rocker, and the rear edge of the front wing. I am absolutely gutted.

Car's been taken away for assessment, but they think it'll be written off (dunno if that translates into US, but its uneconomic to repair, and they pay me a figure for the value, and the car becomes theirs).

I saw a a bodyshop guy today, and he thinks it IS repairable (hooray!!) so I may be after some of my good friends in the TCCOA over in the US to get me a door from a bone-yard at some point....

Here are some more pics.













Good job I've just had the rust repaired in the rocker, and it still had all its strength! The car took quite an impact but I was ok.

Oh yeah, this is the car that she was driving. Barely a mark on it!!

 

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That sucks! The amount of damage to the other car is unreal, but that is usually how it goes in this specific type of side impact, same thing happened to my 2000 Grand Marquis, torn up quarter panel and axle, and the Dodge Neon had paint that was flexed.

Gonna be tough to get it fixed over there, without easy access to parts like the door and the rocker.

Sounds like it will be written off (we also call that totaled or a total loss), not sure how that works there, here you generally can then buy the vehicle back at scrap value, and fix it and get it inspected. It will have a different title like restored or salvage, and you generally can no longer get comprehensive insurance on it, and lots of people won't buy a car with that, but an accident like that, it is mainly cosmetic and minor functional (like the door not opening) and not structural.
 

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Ouch! :(

The equivalent term for your "written off" over here is "totaled". When that happens here, usually they'll pay you a certain amount for the car, then you can buy it back for usually a small fraction of that and use the difference for repairs.

As long as they can push the quarter panel out, properly repair the door jamb, repair the rocker and find a new door to go on... it should be fine. Decent doors can be had around here, but they're usually $150-$200 if someone else pulls it for you. I'd imaging shipping to UK on something that big and heavy would be unreal, probably at least as much as the door itself.
 

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Sorry to hear Andy.. :(

It does look repairable though..

As long as the mileage isn't too high they shouldn't total it out..




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People suck.
 

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Thanks guys. "Totalled". Of course. I should've known that! Sounds like it works the same over there as it does here. Trouble is there have been zero Thunderbirds sold (on Ebay) during the last few months, so I've no idea how they're going for put a value on a 20yr old import. If I wanted to get another T-bird imported (I see you have loads on the US ebay), it's gonna cost the price of the car+shipping+20% tax. We do however have a selection of 90's Mustangs on there, so I w ad thinking of convincing the assessor that that would be the best alternative as a valuation guide. They coincidentally also tend to sell for more. :) So if it's totalled, I get a good valuation, and an age to find a door somewhere, hopefully my man can fix it up.
 

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Sucks to see these pictures. You put all your time, sweat and beers into a car and some stupid ***** ruins all that in a second. Sorry to hear, hope you get it all fixed up. Good luck!
 

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Wow! So sorry to see this Andy.

Best wishes getting all that you can out of that @#$#@[email protected]$#@!$^%%$^^&^%$&%^&*&^%*%^*&%^WTASDVVZDWQXZ! :zsoapbox:
 

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Thanks guys. When it happened I was absolutely gutted, and I could believe it when they said it could be written off. And then within an hour or so, the truck came, the car was gone, and I didn't think I was gonna see it again. I was really reassured when I was told by my guy the he thought it was repairable though. All my not be lost. I just hope they're not assuming that it's already theirs, and there isn't a bunch of monkeys fiddling with it while it's in their storage place. Unlike the US, this will stand out a mile in amongst all the boring euro boxes they normally see. If its not in the same state when as it was in when it left, when I get it back, I'll give them hell.
 

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Thanks guys. When it happened I was absolutely gutted, and I could believe it when they said it could be written off. And then within an hour or so, the truck came, the car was gone, and I didn't think I was gonna see it again. I was really reassured when I was told by my guy the he thought it was repairable though. All my not be lost. I just hope they're not assuming that it's already theirs, and there isn't a bunch of monkeys fiddling with it while it's in their storage place. Unlike the US, this will stand out a mile in amongst all the boring euro boxes they normally see. If its not in the same state when as it was in when it left, when I get it back, I'll give them hell.
I hope Ron aka Trunk Monkey doesn't get offended by that "Monkeys fiddling with it" comment ..LOL
 

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LOL

No worries. There are good monkeys and bad monkeys ... :tongue:
 

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So sorry to hear this. Really sucks esp. after all the work you put into the car.

I sincerely hope that things return to as they should be soon.
 

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Ouch .. that is terrible.

I have a couple doors in good condition here, off a 1994 SC - same thing except for a couple pegs that would need to be ground off, and two holes for the ground effects to be filled. I cant imagine how much it would cost to ship to your side of the world though.

The door is one thing, the damage to the rear quarter and rocker is usually what totals out these cars.
 

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Thanks for the replies. Still waiting to hear from the assessor on a value. Need to know the figures before I can plan anything.
 

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I doubt they'll offer you more than $1800 USD or about $600 - $700 Pounds (Quid).

I'd be interested to see what a '94 Tbird is worth in England...

Good luck Andy.
 

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Ouch .. that is terrible.

I have a couple doors in good condition here, off a 1994 SC - same thing except for a couple pegs that would need to be ground off, and two holes for the ground effects to be filled. I cant imagine how much it would cost to ship to your side of the world though.

The door is one thing, the damage to the rear quarter and rocker is usually what totals out these cars.
Thanks, that is very useful to know. Even though the shipping would probably cost a fortune, of I get a decent payout from my insurance, I may well be interested in having your drivers door. My bodyshop guy thinks that he can make a reasonable job of repairing the rest, although it would obviously be easier if we had access to replacement panels/repair sections. The door is the main problem at the moment though, so its good to know you have one.
 

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I doubt they'll offer you more than $1800 USD or about $600 - $700 Pounds (Quid).

I'd be interested to see what a '94 Tbird is worth in England...

Good luck Andy.
About my thoughts as well.

BTW, it is my understanding that "quid" is the slang term for GBP (British Pounds) - much like "bucks" is our slang term for dollars; the current exchange rate is about $1.70 per £1, so if he gets £1000-£1100, he'd get about what the car would be "worth" in the US (thank you, Doctor Who).

As for shipping a door, from what I saw in my brief search of shipping such a large, heavy item over to UK, my estimate would be around £100, if not more.
 

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I doubt they'll offer you more than $1800 USD or about $600 - $700 Pounds (Quid).

I'd be interested to see what a '94 Tbird is worth in England...

Good luck Andy.
Yes, so would I! The thing is, unlike in the US, these cars are ultra rare over here. In 9yrs, I've only ever seen one on the road, and maybe 6 come up on Ebay - none on the last few months. Depending on their view, the rareness could go in my favour as I could claim that the only way to do a like for like replacement is to buy one from the US and get it shipped over. So $2000+ to buy a car + another $1500+ shipping. Alternatively I've got a list of Mustangs that have been for sale in the last few months over here, ranging from £2000 -£4000.

If I got a reasonable payout, I'd be more than willing to pay £100-300 to ship it over, although I think we'll be looking at more to do it on my own. I think there are UK companies that specialise in sourcing and shipping used car parts from the US to the UK for enthusiasts, so that's something I need to research.

And yes, "quid" = slang for pounds. Also "dosh" = slang for money, as in "it costs a lot of dosh"
 
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