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I don't like the new bottom feeder cars. Nothing screams you can't afford a better car than driving the bottom of the line vehicles from all the manufactures. I would feel like a real looser if I had to drive a focus, fiesta, cruze, aveo, Chrysler small cars and any Korean designed or made car. I would rather ride a bus than drive one of these cracker box piece of ****. I think that they are rattle and death traps.
 

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I don't like the new bottom feeder cars. Nothing screams you can't afford a better car than driving the bottom of the line vehicles from all the manufactures. In my opinion i feel you are a looser if you drive a focus, fiesta, cruze, aveo, Chrysler small cars and any Korean designed or made car. I would rather ride a bus than drive one of these cracker box piece of ****. I think that they are rattle and death traps. They are the perfect car to all the emasculated boys in Europe.
What about people not making a lot of money but want something reliable that gets great gas mileage.
Or people who don't care about options and just want a car to get them to work and back, or to the store?
I rode in a base model Cruse this weekend and it didn't fall apart. It felt safe and roomy.
 

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To each their own. It drives me crazy to see one person driving around in huge SUVs or trucks in mostly urban areas where they have no practical hauling use for which they are designed. Smaller cars go "in" when gas prices go up. Once people get comfortable with gas prices, they go and splurge on larger cars. I wouldn't mind one (a smaller car) myself if they weren't so blasted fat and ugly, like everything new coming out these days. :zpuke:
 

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To each their own. It drives me crazy to see one person driving around in huge SUVs or trucks in mostly urban areas where they have no practical hauling use for which they are designed. Smaller cars go "in" when gas prices go up. Once people get comfortable with gas prices, they go and splurge on larger cars. I wouldn't mind one myself if they weren't so blasted fat and ugly, like everything new coming out these days. :zpuke:
I don't mind some little cars.
Like the Cruze isn't terrible if you get it fully loaded and stuff.
If you want something that gets good gas mileage, low maintenance and is a solid car its nice.
 

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I don't like the new bottom feeder cars. Nothing screams you can't afford a better car than driving the bottom of the line vehicles from all the manufactures. In my opinion i feel you are a bottom feeder if you drive a focus, fiesta, cruze, aveo, Chrysler small cars and any Korean designed or made car. I would rather ride a bus than drive one of these cracker box piece of ****. I think that they are rattle and death traps. They are the perfect car to all the emasculated boys in Europe.
are you off your meds again, thats some of the dumbest stuff ive read here in awhile.
 

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are you off your meds again, thats some of the dumbest stuff ive read here in awhile.
This...
I agree.
I haven't read much here but this has to be the most pointless thread made.


Those cars are there for people who have little money and want something reliable, and they are.

for the people that don't make a lot of money there is the city bus or there thumb.
That way they can go to the bridge where they live.
Wow....
You have to be one of the most ignorant people I have seen on this forum...

People can have a house and little money for a car.
Or maybe they want basics.
AM/FM heat and power windows.
I know plenty of people who just want basics.
Not the fully loaded car that you think everyone with a house can afford.

I just don't like 4 c front wheel drive cars.
FWD is better for some regions.
Like where I live.
Old people don't wanna slide everywhere like I do with my Cougar.
They want something that sticks to the road and won't kill them in the process.
 

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There's far less rattles in the Focus than in my Cougar even when it was 100% stock, handles nice and it gets 30+ mpg average.

I hate SUVs, I hate minivans and I hate their their offspring the Crossover. Absolutely useless junk practical for the most unlikely scenarios, created by a loophole based on a political stunt. Compacts have been around forever, they do everything a car is meant for and most importantly they aren't a stupid truck.
 

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There's far less rattles in the Focus than in my car even BEFORE I stiffed it up, and it gets 30+ mpg average.
I feel much safer in a "bottom feeder" car than my car...
Mine rattles makes noise and sometimes stalls when its most inconvenient.
The Cruze I rode in didn't once make a silly noise or try to kill us in the process of getting us home.
 

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I had a so called "bottom feeder" ford focus 10 years ago...at the time I hated it...now, I see what an ungreatfull little d-bag I was...it was a very nice car, got good gas milage, was reliable, had every creature comfort one could want.

And speaking of "stripped down" vehicles, although it's not a "small car" I drive a 2008 F150 every day at work...it is a 4.6/4spd auto extended cab...it has cruise control and air conditioning...that's it, nothing else. It has white paint and grey cloth interior, rubber floors, crank windows, manual locks, and is 2WD. Guess what? I love that truck! I would love to have one just like it...nothing fancy and it gets the job done.

A good car is a good car, regardless of options, and for the most part, regardless of who makes it...I'm die hard ford all the way, but I am by no means against a good vehicle, no matter what the name plate.

And some poeple don't have a lot of money for all the fancy stuff, nor are they concerned with impressing people.
 

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even the low line cars are not cheap any more. I think if you can't afford a better car than a sub compact car you should get the most striped down beater till you can save up and buy a better car.

When I bought my first tbird they tried to stick me into escort I absolutely put my foot down and told the them either I get what I want or I won't buy anything at all. I rode a city bus for 4 months till I had enough money for the down payment. My olds delta 88 had the engine blow up and I could have gotten a escort that day but I could not get what I wanted so I did without till I could get what I wanted.
 

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I had a so called "bottom feeder" ford focus 10 years ago...at the time I hated it...now, I see what an ungratefully little d-bag I was...it was a very nice car, got good gas mileage, was reliable, had every creature comfort one could want.

And speaking of "stripped down" vehicles, although it's not a "small car" I drive a 2008 F150 every day at work...it is a 4.6/4spd auto extended cab...it has cruise control and air conditioning...that's it, nothing else. It has white paint and grey cloth interior, rubber floors, crank windows, manual locks, and is 2WD. Guess what? I love that truck! I would love to have one just like it...nothing fancy and it gets the job done.

A good car is a good car, regardless of options, and for the most part, regardless of who makes it...I'm die hard ford all the way, but I am by no means against a good vehicle, no matter what the name plate.

And some people don't have a lot of money for all the fancy stuff, nor are they concerned with impressing people.
My grandpa made 100k+ a year.
He lives in a single wide trailer and drives a 9 year old Honda Accord.
He doesn't care if people think he's poor he has everything he needs to live.
A house a car and food.
And plenty of extra money to get what he wants and needs, and get other people what they need and want.

even the low line cars are not cheap any more. I think if you can't afford a better car than a sub compact car you should get the most striped down beater till you can save up and buy a better car.

When I bought my first Tbird they tried to stick me into escort I absolutely put my foot down and told the them either I get what I want or I won't buy anything at all.
Why though?
If they have their heart set on the stripped down basic car like you did on your Tbird, why take that away from them?
Why do they need the highest end version?
The low end ones are there for people struggling.
 

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Not everyone wants to deal with maintaining an old POS on it's last legs only to get screwed by all the misc. shops to fix it, it's amazing the security a warranty can provide someone who only needs to commute. Me, I don't have to worry about since I'm part of a small minority who can do my own **** and do it right
 

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I live in a poor area of town, have no car payments, or debts of any kind. I own my own home I make a substantial income I live on 1/3 of my bring home pay after I pay my expenses.

Some people live in apartments and have no mechanical ability It is better that they make car payments forever that taking a chance that they might have to repair a car.
 

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I live in a poor area of town, have no car payments, or debts of any kind. I own my own home I make 90k a year after I pay my expenses. I live on 1/3 of what I clear after taxes.
I live in a poor area.
People around here make almost nothing.
And have to by the "bottom Feeder" cars so they can support their family.
I'm sure if they could afford the nicer car they would.
And as for your take the bus excuse..the nearest bus stop is about 3 miles away and most people work in Mass which no bus goes to.

some people live in apartments and have no mechanical ability It is better that they make car payments forever that taking a chance that they might have to repair a car.
How is the bottom feeder car worse than the high end one in reliability?
 

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People struggling are driving around old stuff held together with duct tape, new stripped cars are for people who want a new car but either want to minimize the cost OR get a car without options since they don't need/want them at all.
People struggling that can make payments can get them.
People around here save up just to get the low end one.
 

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Stop generalizing people. People buy what they buy because they can. We will never know all the reasons people buy what they do and the current economic state is my proof. People struggling buy two houses with no money down and then ask for a bailout when they cant afford it. On the other hand there are millionaires living in modest homes because they want to. This country is full of people who think they are owed something.
 

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If you are in debt you a slave to the debt holder. I am not owed anything from the government other than to stay out of my business, bed room and out of my way. If people are to lazy to work when work is available and they are able body they should starve. People are not entitled anything that they did not work for.
 
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