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I need some help with a problem that I have been chasing for over a year now. The Bird wanders around on the road. It tracks straight but the least amount of uneven pavement and away it goes. You can't take your hand off the wheel for a second. I started with L & R new upper and lower control arms, new front and rear hub bearings on the passenger side, a couple of alignments, and new tires to no avail. The only thing I haven't replaced is the strut rod bushings and the driver's side bearings, and shocks. The tech said I need a camber kit for the passenger's side front but it was probably ok with a driver inside. I know it isn't the rubber steering joint and am wondering if it might be the rack or even the PS pump since I have the speed sensitive steering. I have replaced both sides tie rod end (inner and outer), and no improvement. I did find the rear toe lnks busted and replacement made no chnge there either. I am about ready to ditch it as bad as I hate the thought. Anything I missed?

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97 Sport w/ 99 J-mod tranny
 

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'Sounds like it doesn't have enough front caster. The more the caster, the more it wants to keep going straight.
 

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i thought i'm the only one.....
 

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Me too... It got really bad once I put wide low-pro tires on it, though.
 

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SloMo228 said:
Me too... It got really bad once I put wide low-pro tires on it, though.
that's what happen to me too. with the stock tires it is barely noticeable but after change to wider and lower profile....both my 94 and 96 have the same problem.

this may open up to a new world of discussion.
 

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Same problem here and the car pulls left. My car is lowered and I run 255/45/17s. I have been all over this thing and can't find a problem. I have aligned it 4 or 5 times and set the caster 1/2 degree more positive on the passenger side and the camber 1/4 more positive on the drivers side, but the car still pulls right. Changing the alignment does not seem to have any real effect on it. I will take another look at the front suspension tonight (for probably the tenth time), but I have replaced the lower ball joints, strut bushings and LCA bushings. The only thing that helped was the lower ball joints because they were obviously bad. I think it is because either something is worn or bent or the car is too low and suspension has poor geometry at this ride height. It is hard to spot a bad balljoint in these cars because it is very hard to unload the front suspension. My method is to get jackstands as far out on the lower control arms as possible and then jack up the back end. Then try rocking the tire around with a six foot 2x4 in every direction. Lower ball joints seem to take a beating theses cars. That's my two cents worth....
 

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when I went to get my car aligned, the shop couldn't even get it in spec. They told me it had been in an accident. Imagine my surprise! I think I'd have noticed something like that :rolleyes:
 

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I'm running stock tires etc, so thats not it. I am begining to wonder if the alignment shops are trying to sell more tires because they tried hard to sell me a new set claiming mine had bad belts. That mayhave been true as replacing two has helped but how long before I start seeing weird wear patterns and wandering again?
 

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I'm running the tires that came with the wheels...they're none too spectacular, and not in the greatest shape, so new tires might help. I wonder why they thought my car had been hit, though. Everything looks fine underneath...
 

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sometimes though you usually can't see everything until you yank the engine -
Remember the 1968 mustang project car for e-bay that foose did?
It had serious damage where they had to cut off and replace the entire front doghouse
 

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Prior to my suspension upgrade, my 94 would do the exact same thing. Before the upgrade I replaced the rear shocks and it helped a lot. Surprisingly so!!

Post-upgrade it is doing it again, but I have poly bushings everywhere (which makes everything “tighter” and the same cheap POS rear shocks (which I think have already gone to the great shock haven in the sky). :leftright

I have new shock, but I haven’t installed them yet. :D
 

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Have you checked your rear bearings? Both of mine went out and uneven pavement would make the car pull, jumping off the gas would cause it to pull. It bacame a 2 hands on the wheel driver. My wife thought I had too much too drink one night because on one road I was hard to keep off the center line. The passenger side was very noticable by jacking up the car and moving the tire around, not so much on the drivers side. This had been happening gradually, but was acelerated by change to 3.73 gear. With new bearings and hubs on both sides I can drive with my knee if I want too.
 

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hey, i have that problem, and i have to hlod my wheel to the lright a little to keep the car straigt, i replace every front suspension part, and it just moved it over the where i have to keep the wheel to the left to keep it straight:rolleyes:
 

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well, I have the same problem - sorta' -
If I allow the steering to return on it's own, it won't go all the way to dead centre - rather it will be a little off to the side I was turning
i.e. made left turn, it's slightly off to the left
i.e. right turn slightly off to the right.
So maybe your steering might be doing this?
Just a thought, I really don't have any clue but it is possible that your steering may not be quite centred -
Who knows, your steering wheel might even be uncentered slightly?
Again, just some stuff to consider...
 

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dirtyd0g said:


I had the same problem. Lower the air pressure to 28-29 lbs and it helps alot.
Alan
mine is opposite, it helps when i bump the pressure up...
 

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yeah mine does the same ****! damn 17x9 rims 255/45s on em
 

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94 Daily Driven 4.6L said:
Prior to my suspension upgrade, my 94 would do the exact same thing. Before the upgrade I replaced the rear shocks and it helped a lot. Surprisingly so!!

Post-upgrade it is doing it again, but I have poly bushings everywhere (which makes everything “tighter” and the same cheap POS rear shocks (which I think have already gone to the great shock haven in the sky). :leftright

I have new shock, but I haven’t installed them yet. :D
I figured I would post what I found was my problem: loose hub retainer nuts. :beek:

I blew a tire last week and when I was changing it for the spare I noticed that the tire had a good 1/4" of play. I thought the new bearings had somehow gone bad. But when I went to change them out I found out that the nuts were loose on both sides.

I tightened them up to the torque spec... again... and now it tracks great. (I have new nuts on order).

Just thought I would post my "discovery". :thumbsup:
 

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what kind of torque wrench are you using?
 
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