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i have a 95 5 speed that wont crank,click or anything,batterys hot,fuses good,and the blower motor for the ac is on high but the switch is off any ideas what the hell is going on here.
 

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Not sure about birds, But cars in my past if the clutch safely switch goes bad it did the same as you have described . Not sure why if at all that would mess with the fan .
 

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i thought the same thing about the safety switch,but the thing that has me stumped is the blower motor running on high when its off.I am starting to wonder if the ignition switch could make things go haywire.
 

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The ignition switch is a prime suspect.

Have you tried jumping the fender solenoid to see if it kicks the starter over?

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There's one on the starter, yes.

There's ALSO one on the inner fender by the battery. That's the one I'm talking about bypassing. Or just jumping to the coil terminal from the battery terminal and seeing if the starter then cranks.

Don't ask me why Ford does the double-solenoid job.

Well, TECHNICALLY, it's just a relay up high on the fender.

Here's a pic of one that may be there, courtesy of RockAuto:



Take the connector that has the wire clipped to it (the one with the 6-32 thread), pull the connector off, jump it to the battery terminal, and see if the starter cranks.

If it does, it's not the wiring from there down, so you've got THAT section tested.

Next, if it doesn't, is to jump the battery and starter posts (usually done with a big screwdriver. This can cause lots of sparks, and you want to hear it just spin -don't try to start it that way!) If THAT works, then the problem is the relay there.

If, however, it does spin over with the first test, then if it's the original ignition switch, I'd grab a new one and replace it on general principles.

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Ralph,

I dont believe the 95 had the solenoid up on the fender well like the older cars. I think that stopped in 93. I think the 94s and 95s only had the solenoid on the starter.
 

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If the ignition switch has gone bad then electrical gremlins of all sorts are possible.
 

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no the solenoid is on the starter
There's a solenoid on the starter, yes.

But - hey! That big relay on the fender? Is also known as a solenoid because it's a solenoid style relay!

(They were THE solenoid before Ford started using solenoids on the starter also, instead of just a Bendix style drive. But I digress ... )

The one on the fender sends current down to the starter mounted solenoid, whereas the actual starter motor is wired up to the switched portion of the starter solenoid all the time.

But it's a good first check - jump the solenoid on the fender, and see if it kicks the starter then.

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I don't know about the SCs, but starting 1994 there is no fender mounted relay on the XR7s or LXs.
 

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I don't know about the SCs, but starting 1994 there is no fender mounted relay on the XR7s or LXs.
There isn't ever for the 4.6, they only used the starter-mounted relay/solenoid.

Ford doesn't list the fender relay on the 1994 or 1995 SC, it turns out. Welp, I'm a bit embarrassed ... I could have sworn that ALL SCs had the solenoid up high. It's listed in more than one parts book. Just like the PCV filter that my car doesn't have :eek::eek:

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oh well ralph.no ones perfect,if i were i probably would not even own a sc,they are a challenge to keep them running correctly thats for sure.
 

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ok well i changed the ignition switch,still wont crank.No click nothing,So i changed the clutch safety switch nothing the only thing i have not changed is the key cylinder,but i dont think that has anything to do with it i wouldnt think.The other day when i went to push it in the garage to change the ignition switch i tried to start it just to see and it cranked up.Turned it off a couple of times everything seemed to work right then again it stopped cranking no click anything.Thats when i changed the above parts.I also cant explain why the blower motor is on full blast i completely unplugged the controll and it slill is running.I am starting to wonder if its computer related.
 

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If the blower motor is still on full blast on the fully automatic temperature control with it unplugged, then the blower speed control module is fried.

The HVAC head doesn't actually control the blower speed, it controls the blower speed control module - which DOES control the blower speed.

It's an electronic version of the blower speed resistor, basically.

As I said earlier, you really need to lay hands on the EVTM for your car.

And don't chase everything down at once! Work on the won't-start.

But with what you're describing, if it's not the ignition switch, there's a fair chance it's battery wiring connections (note: can be at EITHER end of the cable!) and/or the solenoid on the starter itself.

Sounds like time to crawl underneath with a remote starter switch and see if you can get it to kick with that when it won't with the key.

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just to update a little,all of the battery cables have been replaced,but i will see about a remote starter,thanks for the input.
 
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