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I wouldn't buy a plate. I would make one. But it might be easier to just cut and weld my factory bracket. Then drill and tap some holes in the side of the intake, or make the bracket bolt to the tb studs.

The biggest reason is the larger 65mm tb I already have that came with the used motor. It won't bolt up to an elbow. Isn't the factory tb 60mm?

Oh yeah, I forgot. The 94-95 Mustang/91-93 T-Bird 5.0/89-95 SC use a throttle body that is a different shape than the Fox intake. You would have do a few other things like switch to a Fox throttle body to make that work.
 

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Don't forget about the coolant lines that go to the intake on the FOX cars. I know cause I took a regular Fox type intake off of one once and put a Cobra on. Started it up and antifreeze went everywhere. Got to plug them or install them.
 

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I almost have the Explorer intake installed. The hood 'might' shut after trimming the brace. Now I have to figure out how to make the cruise work. The cruise would be easier if I used an egr spacer instead of just bolting the tb directly to the intake. Hopefully the tps won't hit the hood. I might need to get a fox tps.

When I finish tomorrow I'll post some pics.
 

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ok this shouldnt be hard, you should use the 94-95 mustang t/b adapter that they sell to work with the fox intakes, you would of been done by now
 

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It really wasn't very hard going fox style:D

I drilled and tapped for the original fitting for brake and pressure regulator vaccum here-

http://members.cox.net/93tbird/intake/brake vaccum.JPG

Cruise works! I cut off the plastic crap and hooked the cable end to a ring connector over the throttle ball. Cut a slot in the fox bracket. If the cable wasn't broken where the bolt goes the zip-tie wouldn't be needed. The fox bracket bolts to a bracket I made from scrap. Notice I also half-shafted the tb:D Ahh the things boredom makes one do.

http://members.cox.net/93tbird/intake/cruise cable.JPG

Here are a few finished shots.

http://members.cox.net/93tbird/intake/done!.JPG
http://members.cox.net/93tbird/intake/done2.JPG
http://members.cox.net/93tbird/intake/polished.JPG

The tps bolt hits the hood. Cutting out the brace let the hood shut fine. No rubbing either. I dimpled the hood with a reverse hail dent for now. I only gave $30.00 for the hood so its almost worthless to me. A fox tps would have cleared no problem. A cowl hood is in the future anyway. It's a '94 hood with '97 headlights.

http://members.cox.net/93tbird/intake/sittin' higher.JPG

I used a different pcv valve so I could hook the canister to it.

The rubber couplers were all I could find for now. I spent $20 on couplers and $23 on a 3 1/2" chrome exhaust tip.

edit hmm I had to manually put the [url..] thing in:rolleyes:
 

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icantdrive55 said:
It really wasn't very hard going fox style:D

I drilled and tapped for the original fitting for brake and pressure regulator vaccum here-

http://members.cox.net/93tbird/intake/brake vaccum.JPG

Cruise works! I cut off the plastic crap and hooked the cable end to a ring connector over the throttle ball. Cut a slot in the fox bracket. If the cable wasn't broken where the bolt goes the zip-tie wouldn't be needed. The fox bracket bolts to a bracket I made from scrap. Notice I also half-shafted the tb:D Ahh the things boredom makes one do.

http://members.cox.net/93tbird/intake/cruise cable.JPG

Here are a few finished shots.

http://members.cox.net/93tbird/intake/done!.JPG
http://members.cox.net/93tbird/intake/done2.JPG
http://members.cox.net/93tbird/intake/polished.JPG

The tps bolt hits the hood. Cutting out the brace let the hood shut fine. No rubbing either. I dimpled the hood with a reverse hail dent for now. I only gave $30.00 for the hood so its almost worthless to me. A fox tps would have cleared no problem. A cowl hood is in the future anyway. It's a '94 hood with '97 headlights.

http://members.cox.net/93tbird/intake/sittin' higher.JPG

I used a different pcv valve so I could hook the canister to it.

The rubber couplers were all I could find for now. I spent $20 on couplers and $23 on a 3 1/2" chrome exhaust tip.

edit hmm I had to manually put the [url..] thing in:rolleyes:

Good thing your labor is free. :D
 

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Yeah, if someone was paying me to do all that extra work they would be way ahead buying an elbow. I must've spent 8 hours polishing the intake, 3 hours installing it, and at least another 4 hours making stuff fit and getting parts.
 

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You mean to tell me that if I use an Explorer intake, I have to get the elbow thing also? It is like $75 for one. Is the Expl. intake just the upper or both upper and lower? How did you polish it?
 

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Well, I bought a whole '99 Explorer engine/trans complete with all accessories for 5 bills last summer. I'm going to finish the motor one of these days:rolleyes: The lower is the same as a cobra/gt40. You need both upper and lower. I ported the lower and painted it. The upper took alot of grinding and sanding. I finished it off with some aluminum polishing compound then some 3m stuff made for a cars paint.

That rubber elbow I used was 9 bucks at the truck supply. I could have bought a whole 7' stick of aluminized 3.5" pipe today for 20 bucks. All I could get Saturday was a 3.5" chrome tailpipe. I spent about $45 on the couplers and tailpipe..er chrome intake pipe. A new 65mm tb and elbow would be $250 or so.

I wanted to use the 65mm Explorer tb that won't fit on an elbow since it was already in hand. You would need a $75 elbow to keep egr. Professional Products has one cheaper.

Business is real slow right now so time isn't really money...unfortunately. I would rather make stuff than buy it anyway. Much more fun that way.

Today was the first time the pavement was dry since installing the intake. The power increase is pretty decent. Still not enough but feels like at least 20-30hp. Hard to tell since the throttle response is so much greater. The motor revs way quicker and pulls higher rpms. 5500 rpm shifts feel just right. Looks like I'm deep in the 14's without ever taking the valve covers off. Can't wait till Friday night t&t:D Then I can use the trusty hp calculator and make a better guess on the increase.
 

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The hp calculator says 19hp on a stock motor. Feels like more, probably because of the bigger tb. Throttle response is awesome! I went from a 15.1 @ 89 to a 14.7 @ 91.87
 

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there are quite a few different intakes out there but im not sure if any are actually "cheap". i have the gt-40 on mine and believe me i paid enough for it, wasnt really a tough install but there were a few things that had to be changed/moved. i also did jba headers and bigger TB and MAF sensor at the same time, i noticed a HUGE DIFFERENCE in power at high rpm but low end is the same if not worse, but i also have 3.08 gears, im thinking about changing to 3.55's.
 

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well i have 3.73's in my 93 sc and i like them, but not on the interstate, it runs the car too hard, thats why i want 3.55's. im not really worried about how fast the car is "light to light" because its a dog anyway you want to gear it until i do some more engine work lol.
 

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I know this is an old post, where exactly did you grind off the stuff to swap the linkage. I just bought a 65mm T.B. and want to use it. Do I have to use the mustang spring or the birds?
 

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I ground off the weld on the very top of the shaft, the spring shouldnt matter, should be the same.... or at least I cant see it affecting anything too much. As long as it is strong enough to close the TB. To be on the safe side I'd go with the spring from the TB you're adapting for use. Before you weld the t-bird spring on, I'd mock it all up and make sure it all functions like it should. Just use common sense on this one, and triple check everything before you weld.
 

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I was looking at your home made C.A.I. Do you have measurements on how long and at what angles it is. I'm going to do that also when I get my T.B. on. I'm going to go to the exhaust shop and have them make me one.
 

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I'm afraid I dont have any measurements.... I used to have a template for the plate somewhere. Dont hold your breath on that though. I think I just used a 45* bend, and cut the leg down to fit. I had to build the whole thing slowly and all at once to make sure the dimensions worked out.
 
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