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I had the funniest day ever today, even though I got a ticket. I was going down the highway doing 140kph where you're only allowed to go 100kph - kinda in a hurry to get to an appointment on time. So, in my still-not-quite-awake stupor I blast past this cop car, who promptly invites me to pull over.

So, this cop gets out, looks at the 'bird, walks around it a few times and comes up to my window. So, knowing I'm full well in for a ticket, I already have my papers ready. Cop looks at me, looks at the 'bird, and goes "um, isn't this sort of car really expensive for someone your age?" - I'm sitting there going "ehh... umm.. ". We ended up small-talking about american cars, and 'birds and cats in specific, apparently the cop loved them too, but never did get one because he figured it'd be mad expensive.

Up comes a 2nd cop car (when people here get pulled over, usually you're taken to the nearest exit or gas station so you're off the highway when you're getting your ticket), with this insanely riced out BMW behind it. I mean, riced to death. Lowered, striped, stickered, fitted with a fart cannon that I could probably fit a tennisball in with ease. Both cops end up doing the "hi how' ya doin" thing, and Mr. Rice decides now would be the perfect time to tell the cops that him doing 160kph was just fine, and that he'd **** them up of they tried to ticket him or take his license away. (>50kph over the speed limit, and you get to hand over your license until a judge decides whether you get to keep it).

In the heat of his argument, Mr. Rice makes a comment. And I paraphrase:
"Why do you always pick on performance cars, why do you always gotta pick on people that drive nice big cars and know how to drive, and why don't you go back to that guy in his lameass slow big yank car and ticket him huh?".

(This made me laugh because my 'bird, altho stock, and only a V6, does keep up nicely with old beat up BMW's that are riced out).

This first triggers a stunned silence, and then the cop I was talking to before this all went down told his colleague to just get on with it and start doing some business. So, other cop goes to write up the ticket for Mr. Rice, and "my" cop comes back and tells me that today is my lucky day. Because I told him some about the t-bird, and because he hates the ricers, he's gonna let me go with a ticket for not having proper lighting (i'm missing a drivers side corner light), which saves me about $250.

Woot. Score 1.

I figure, I'm at a gas station anyway, so I thank the cop and go inside to get some cigs and some cola. 5 minutes later, Mr. Rice is still there, argueing, and I witnessed the most exquisite verbal smackdown ever delivered. Mr. Rice did manage to talk them out of taking his license, but he was getting a ticket. So he says, "you <expletive expletive .. some more expletive> cops gotta fill up your quota huh? that's why you're giving me the ticket huh?". So the cop smiles real friendly like and goes "no, I'm writing this one for fun".

My day, at that point, was the best day ever. Score 2!

This insanely long post brought to you by the everlasting chuckle at the look on the poor ricers' face.
 

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Ha ha. That will teach the ricer to disrespect the police. They are just out doing their jobs, and not looking for a hassle. Serves him right. I never argue w/ an officer, just yes and no sir's, and so far, no tickets, just a lot of warnings, lol. You should feel lucky he saw the ricer. Sounds like it saved you some $$$. Better watch yourself, or next time, you may catch an officer on the wrong day and whammo! Big fatty ticket. It's always nice to hear someone interested in my bird, whether a cop or not. Stay safe, and watch for the five-0. Was he driving a Vic, or something else? Just curious..

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"no, I'm writing this one for fun".

I think I'll use that next time I write a ticket and I get that comment. I wrote my first ticket since July 24 on New Years Eve. I hate writing tickets for anything other than DUI...court is usually a waste of time that could be spent elsewhere...like sleeping or at the track.
 

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wow i didnt know you were the fuzz lobo!
 

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must be fun being able to mess with people
 

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I don't mess with people...just try to educate those that need it. I got pulled over by a New York trooper once, an absolutely horrible experience, and I was a cop. I ran into him a few months later and he was a great guy, he was just having a bad day when he stopped me.

I try to remind myself that if I "mess" with someone they will be difficult for the next cop that pulls them over. I just do my job, if that means a ticket or a warning, or a trip to jail so be it. But, I also talk to people about their cars, sports, politics, whatever it takes to eliminate any type of confrontaion or fear on their part.

Remember, nice people speed, nice people have collisions, and sometimes nice people might even be DUI, I just don't take it personally. Of the thousands of people I have stopped over the years I have never gotten one citizen complaint. My wife is also a Trooper and we have a great time when we get a chance to work together. Like I said, best job in the world.
 

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We have a city cop here that is the same way, he doesnt get excited very often. He is friends with my older brother so we get away with callin him Bufford T. Justice (sp?). We had this one city cop/DOT guy that had zero sense of humor. He pulled a friend of mine over for not stopping long enough at a stop sign or sumthin and he stopped better than I did and I was followin him. He got a ticket and lost his licence.
 

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AZ state trooper?

guy named Danny Solow still work there?
 

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Ha ha. That will teach the ricer to disrespect the police. They are just out doing their jobs, and not looking for a hassle. Serves him right. I never argue w/ an officer, just yes and no sir's, and so far, no tickets, just a lot of warnings, lol. You should feel lucky he saw the ricer. Sounds like it saved you some $$$. Better watch yourself, or next time, you may catch an officer on the wrong day and whammo! Big fatty ticket. It's always nice to hear someone interested in my bird, whether a cop or not. Stay safe, and watch for the five-0. Was he driving a Vic, or something else? Just curious..

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Nah, cops over here don't drive the cool cars ;) The one I ran into was a local cop, they usually drive Opel Vectra's, the other guy who plucked the ricer off the highway drove a Volvo S40.
 

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Nah, cops over here don't drive the cool cars ;) The one I ran into was a local cop, they usually drive Opel Vectra's, the other guy who plucked the ricer off the highway drove a Volvo S40.
When I was in Italy, back in '98, I noticed the same thing. But once, I was passed by someone who must have been very important. The police car at the back of the escort was a mid-80's Chevy Caprice. (There were multiple police cars and motorcycles. in this escort) :xpoh:
 

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When I was in Italy, back in '98, I noticed the same thing. But once, I was passed by someone who must have been very important. The police car at the back of the escort was a mid-80's Chevy Caprice. (There were multiple police cars and motorcycles. in this escort) :xpoh:
Cool :) Over here mostly the important folks have a police escort consisting of motorcycles (BMW's I think), and a bunch of "unmarked" cars. (No striping, just flat black Mercedes E-class cars with some serious black tinted windows).

The most used police vehicles here are the VW Golf, Opel Astra/Vectra, Volvo S40, and Mercedes E/S class cars, those are the ones I've seen driving around. Fun thing is that they're all stock. I asked once if they had any changes done to it, and besides ripping out the dash and having a new one in there to hold all the equipment and such, the engine and the rest of the car is completely stock.

There are, however, a lot of former police Caprices around here, lots of people buy those, kit them up and restore them. Saw a bunch of them at a meet once, pretty cool to see, and apparently scared a lot of people into driving all nice ;)

Most cops around The Hague that are part of the highway patrol are pretty jealous of how things go in the US at times, when it comes to the cars being driven and such, so maybe that's one good thing about my 'bird, it's usually a good conversation opener - and as long as I can have a decent convo with a cop I can talk my way out of a lot of things ;)

(Ofcourse, I get unlucky at times and get hit with the big fines, but hey, if you speed like a man, you gotta take the ticket like a man)
 

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Hahaha! Score one for the "big yank" domestics! Way to represent the Thunderbird community with some good ole fashion respect.

Hey Lobo, you can cite for DUI in AZ? In KY we can't.

No complaints in 14 years, that's something to boast about. Does qualified immunity have a part in that? I unfortunately don't have that luxury. Though I've never had a formal complaint where I needed to see IA, I've had to write incident reports on a few informal complaints. I work the late watch criminal unit, serving warrants and EPO's. People just don't like being woke up 3,4,5 o'clock in the morning - I don't see what the big deal is, lol.
 

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Heck Unherd, I'd rather you show up at 3/4/5am :p I'm still awake by that time ;)

There's a drawback to having a big yank too - you stand out in the crowd. My driving style is rather agressive, mostly because I have real issues with people that do 45 in a 55mph zone, and the people with leased cars who drive like total maniacs (tailgating, cutting you off, doing the "duuuude i'm gonna go cross 4 lanes now without looking or using my turn signals" thing).

Generally I just try to match up with the rest of traffic, unfortunately it means I'm usually doing 10/20kph over the speed limit. I'm always the one that gets pulled over because well, I have a big car, and it stands out -- ofcourse, once I'm pulled over usually I end up chatting with the cops about the car. Or it's issues. Got pulled over a few weeks ago (speeding a little bit, I admit) because the cop saw a bunch of wires hang loose under my car. So we ended up chatting a bit, and him helping me jack the car up so I could take a look at what it was - he even helped me fix it ;) (it was the wiring that goes to the hitch that's on the car, to transfer brake lights and such to whatever you were towing).

Eh, as the topic title says, sometimes you love em, sometimes you hate them. There's also the love/hate relationship with one certain police officer, she's a good friend of mine and I never knew she was a cop, until I got pulled over by her once. *cough* she's lovely, but not if she's working, because she'll just give me the ticket anyway just so she can laugh at me :(

(but she's alright :D)
 

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By the way, lobo, that simulator, what's that little screen hidden behind the chair? Some sort of rear-view camera type deal?

And what's that simulator used for?

(okay okay, I'm a curious guy :p)
 

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Yes we can cite and release misdemeanor DUI in AZ...that's up to the officer.

The driving Simulator is part of the driver's training program, which I run. It is a real CV interior surrounded bu 3 42 in. plasma tv's. I can put you in just about any driving situation and setting...awesome stuff. You get feedback through the pedals, wheel, and seat, just no movement. But if I put you in snow and ice and you hit the brakes, you really feel like you're sliding.

In that picture you can see that we even have our own cars designed into the simulator. We have three simulators in my office, that screen behind me is just one of the screens from another sim.
 

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Yes we can cite and release misdemeanor DUI in AZ...that's up to the officer.

The driving Simulator is part of the driver's training program, which I run. It is a real CV interior surrounded bu 3 42 in. plasma tv's. I can put you in just about any driving situation and setting...awesome stuff. You get feedback through the pedals, wheel, and seat, just no movement. But if I put you in snow and ice and you hit the brakes, you really feel like you're sliding.

In that picture you can see that we even have our own cars designed into the simulator. We have three simulators in my office, that screen behind me is just one of the screens from another sim.
Nice stuff man :) I'd sign up just for that :D

It does look like it's a good way to throw people into some seriously wacked out driving conditions without putting anyone in any real danger - wish they'd have that over here for the cops, as far as I know they do all their driving stuff on a closed circuit, so they can't do the real "dangerous" stuff like high speed maneuvers on snow/ice.

(And the kid in me is immediately thinking: oooohh... simulated Carmageddon *drools*)
 

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I still teah on the track a couple of days a week, but the simulator is used for new officers before they hit the street. It measures judgement and reinforces policies, like you said, without damaging anything or hurting anyone. Good stuff.
 
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