TCCoA Forums banner

1 - 14 of 14 Posts

·
Super Moderator
Joined
·
12,539 Posts
Discussion Starter #1
This ought to help them reach some uber high CAFE numbers...

Filed under: Technology, Ford


2011 Ford Fiesta - Click above for high-res image gallery

Derrick Kuzak, Ford Group Vice President of Global Product Development, has confirmed that the Dearborn automaker will offer turbocharged EcoBoost powertrains in 90 percent of its vehicles here in the United States by 2013. This journey for (nearly) full-line forced-induction started with the 3.5-liter EcoBoost V6 found in the Taurus, Flex and F-150, as well as the Lincoln MKS and MKT. Next, we'll be seeing a 2.0-liter EcoBoost inline-four under the hood of the Edge and Explorer, and now, Ford has confirmed development of a 1.0-liter EcoBoost three-cylinder engine.

This 1.0-liter, inline-three will be the smallest engine in Ford's portfolio, and it will find its way under the hood of vehicles across the globe. No specific output or fuel economy numbers have been divulged just yet, but Joe Bakaj, Ford's Vice President of Global Powertrain Engineering, says that the 1.0-liter triple will provide similar power to the automaker's 1.6-liter naturally aspirated four, while improving fuel economy. When asked, Bakaj tells us that the fuel economy improvements will be similar in percentage to those with the 3.5-liter EcoBoost V6 compared to a naturally aspirated V8.

Ford says it plans to announce more information about the 1.0-liter engine at this year's Frankfurt Motor Show, including exactly what vehicles will be powered by this mill. Since Ford is benchmarking its 1.6-liter engine here - the powerplant used in the Fiesta - we'd expect that this EcoBoost three almost certainly slot into Ford's smallest offering here in the States.

The Blue Oval has also confirmed that it is working on an all-new eight-speed automatic transmission, which is being designed, engineered and built by Ford in-house. Bakaj states that the eight-speed automatic will offer "best-in-class" shift smoothness and responsiveness.

Follow the jump for Ford's official press release.Continue reading Ford confirms 1.0L EcoBoost three-cylinder, eight-speed transmission

Ford confirms 1.0L EcoBoost three-cylinder, eight-speed transmission originally appeared on Autoblog on Thu, 02 Jun 2011 12:29:00 EST. Please see our terms for use of feeds.



Permalink | Email this | Comments

More...
 

·
Super Moderator
1997 Thunderbird 4.6, 1998 Mark VIII LSC
Joined
·
9,520 Posts
Geez, an eight speed transmission? Why not just go with a CVT?
 

·
Super Moderator
Joined
·
12,539 Posts
Discussion Starter #3 (Edited)
Probably because Nissan has a patent on the CVT design.
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
7,758 Posts
LOL, I just posted a similiar link in the "F-150, V6" post. :rofl:
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
2,912 Posts
Probably because Nissan has a patent on the CVT design.
I'm sure Nissan has patents on their CVT design but there are more ways to skin that cat.
VW/Audi, Ford (ZF codevelopment), GM, and Toyota all have their own CVT designs (Toyota's Prius has a form of CVT).

IIRC, Audi and Fords CVTs are chain driven while Nissan's is belt driven. The chain ones can handle more torque.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Continuously_variable_transmission

I believe the question of why an 8spd transmission when they already have a CVT is a valid one. Is this engine a real torque monster? :)
-g
 

·
Super Moderator
1997 Thunderbird 4.6, 1998 Mark VIII LSC
Joined
·
9,520 Posts
Also (just pointing this out), the '11 Fusion Hybrid also has a CVT.
 

·
PostWhore, The AFDB is on a lil tight.
Joined
·
3,868 Posts
I read that link and then read about the new 2012 srt8 300, talk about the other end of the spectrum. It seems both compacts and big cars are getting way too complex for their own good(bye bye panther!). People needing a grocery getting commuting car dont need a turbo anything. People will be sorry they bought them if they aren't experienced wrenchers. With so many usable bulls left here Id rather buy the used bull and have no payments and maybe get worse economy. The bull is well documented online as well.
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
2,472 Posts
The reason 8spd is Americans don't like CVTs.
 

·
Super Moderator
1997 Thunderbird 4.6, 1998 Mark VIII LSC
Joined
·
9,520 Posts
The reason 8spd is Americans don't like CVTs.
Where did you find that information?

I have no issue with CVTs, don't know anyone that does either. :confused:
 

·
Super Moderator
Joined
·
11,961 Posts
Where did you find that information?

I have no issue with CVTs, don't know anyone that does either. :confused:
Imagine Jmod'ing that bad boy and chirping the front tires 7 times before hitting top gear. :)
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
2,912 Posts
Imagine Jmod'ing that bad boy and chirping the front tires 7 times before hitting top gear. :)
If I understand things correctly, chirping tires = lost traction = slower acceleration :)

Q: Ever driven a CVT?
The first time I drove the Audi, it was weird. You floor it and the would go to the highest RPM point on the torque curve and just sit there. Meanwhile, the CVT would vary the gears so we were constantly accelerating. Totally Different feeling (albeit a bit "disconnected" IMO)

Once you are at speed, the CVT can go in crazy high final drive ratio so you won't be spinning nearly as fast for the 80MPH you're driving at.

Of course, there's something to be said about chirping tires (just like drifting which usually != the fastest way around a corner). In both cases though (drift car or fun stoplight drag racer), you wouldn't be buying an econobox Aspire. That's for commuting.

Hence, back to the original question: why not a CVT ? :)

-g
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
2,472 Posts
Forgot where I saw/read it but CVTs were not recieved very well in America. Gist of what I remember Asia like CVT, Europe DSG, and America traditional trannys. Basically based on sales figures.
 
1 - 14 of 14 Posts
Top