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Filed under: Sedan, Etc., Government/Legal, Crossover, Ford, Police/Emergency



Ford has begun producing the company's two new Police Interceptor models. According to Ward's Auto, both the Taurus and Explorer-based cruisers are rolling off of the line at the automaker's Chicago Assembly Plant. All told, the sedan variant has accounted for around 60 percent of orders so far. Currently, the law enforcement market is Ford's to lose: Dearborn has controlled up to 70 percent of police car sales in the U.S. with its now defunct Crown Victoria in the past, but General Motors has made it clear it wants a larger slice of that pie.

GM has given law enforcement agencies an alternative to the two Interceptors from Ford with its Caprice PPV and Tahoe law enforcement SUV. Even so, Ford remains confident it will stay on top of the police market. The company says that early orders indicate it will remain the segment leader.

With a turbocharged, direct-injection 3.5-liter V6 engine in place of the old 4.6-liter V8 found in the Crown Victoria, Ford also says its new Interceptor models should be capable of returning 20 percent better fuel economy - an attribute that should salve relationships somewhat with fleet orderers who were fond of the anvil-like reliability and simplicity of the old Crown Vic.

Ford Taurus and Explorer Police Interceptor production begins
originally appeared on Autoblog on Wed, 22 Feb 2012 17:30:00 EST. Please see our terms for use of feeds.



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We've been developing the 18x8 U502 wheel for the taurus interceptor for around 7 months now and we just put it in production about a month ago. I was wondering when we would start seeing these.

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The cops in my girlfriends town has a whole fleet of the explorers already. Haven't seen em anywhere else yet.
They may not be Police Duty ones though. Could be regular Explorers, although they'd be asking for trouble if they did that :)
 

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The cops here in Manhattan have had the explorers for a little less than a year and they hate them. They all want the crown vics back. The show would he bad as hell though!
 

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They may not be Police Duty ones though. Could be regular Explorers, although they'd be asking for trouble if they did that :)


Very possible. They're not black tho. But have all options as police interceptor. And no interceptor wheels . Hmmmm.. will try to get a pic.
 

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Ford Has Made a Grave Error Dropping RWD Vehicles

When Ford decided to drop their rear wheel drive vehicles they thumbed their noses at the law enforcement customers. Cops don't want cars that are not built to give chase and front wheel drive cars do not handle as well as RWD. Cops do not want to give up the room they had inside of the Crown Vic. Maintenance departments don't want to work on front wheel drive vehicles because they are a bitc* to work on. The new Explorer is just a front wheel drive car that looks like an SUV but is in no way as durable as the preceding Explorer was. Dodge will be the big winner in this fiasco.
 

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Really?

The new cars are nearly 10 whole seconds faster to 100 MPH than the old car.

Police's lumbering ride to get major upgrades
Ford replacing Crown Victorias with two new models that tilt auto advantage back to cops


By Robert E. Calem
updated 3/29/2012 5:56:49 PM ET 2012-03-29

Police officers get intensive training to drive well at high speed, but many are still driving lumbering old Ford Crown Victoria Police Interceptor cruisers that use a decades-old design. The rest of us, meanwhile, are driving modern vehicles with all sorts of technical wizardry — such as electronic stability control, or ESC — that compensates for our own lack of driving skills.

Now, Ford is replacing those old "Crown Vics" with a pair of new Police Interceptors —the Interceptor Sedan based on the automaker’s Taurus vehicle and the Interceptor Utility based on the Explorer — and both are packing innovative technology that returns the driving advantage to the cops.

The most important technological update is to the computers that control the way the vehicles handle, said Carl Widmann, vehicle engineering manager for Police Interceptors at Ford Motor Co. in Dearborn, Mich. For example, he explains, the computer in the Interceptors inhibits the transmission from upshifting as early as the transmissions in the consumer-grade Taurus or Explorer, and "we'll let (the police driver) get more to the limit" of the laws of physics before electronic assists such as ESC take over, "to maintain speed."

Other innovations in the new Interceptors include newly developed headlamp and turn signal housings that also contain ultra-high-power flashing white LEDs facing forward and side-facing white LED strobe-effect lights. On the steering wheel, new electronic switches are programmable to control whichever vehicle functions the police customer designates, ranging from lights and sirens to cameras and the police-band radio.

An optional rear-facing backup camera comes with an LCD display integrated into the rearview mirror, because an officer's opened laptop computer sitting on a new center console mounting plate would hide the LCD display built into the dashboard.

But perhaps most important of all, the new Police Interceptors are also much faster than their old Crown Vic brethren. The Police Interceptor Sedan EcoBoost AWD, equipped with a turbocharged 3.5-liter V6 engine, shoots from a stop to 100 mph in 14.5 seconds, compared with a zero to 100 mph time of 24 seconds for the Crown Victoria Police Interceptor, according to testing by the Los Angeles Sheriff's Department.

Meanwhile, a version of the sedan with a normally aspirated 3.7-liter V6 engine accelerates from zero to 100 mph in 22.2 seconds, the LA Sheriff found. And the Interceptor Utility with the same engine –– loaded with 400 pounds of cargo for the sheriff's test, accelerated from zero to 100 mph in 23.4 seconds.

The top speed of the Sedan EcoBoost AWD is 148 mph, and of the Sedan and Utility is 131 mph. To match these performance characteristics, the brakes were beefed up, too, to withstand 64 runs from zero to 130 mph and back to zero without any fade.


The overall goal in designing the new Interceptors was to make them as simple as possible to drive well and fast, said Bill Gubing, chief program engineer for the Police Interceptors. "Driving the vehicle shouldn't be the officer's No. 1 thought," he added.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/46896378/ns/business-autos/
 

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What's going to be cheaper for a department to own and maintain? A basic BOF RWD chassis whose last major update was nearly 10 years ago(thus lots of off the shelf parts for repair) or a modern AWD sedan with a transverse V6 and two turbos?

I agree, Dodge Chargers or those rebranded G8s from GM will probably become much much more common sight in the next few years. Fords sole reason for having the fleet vehicle market monopolized was because the Crown Vic was basic, cheap and the rivals were all FWD. Had GM not dropped the B body Caprice, those would be ubiquitous today. They were always faster than the Vics too.
 

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What's going to be cheaper for a department to own and maintain? A basic BOF RWD chassis whose last major update was nearly 10 years ago(thus lots of off the shelf parts for repair) or a modern AWD sedan with a transverse V6 and two turbos?

I agree, Dodge Chargers or those rebranded G8s from GM will probably become much much more common sight in the next few years. Fords sole reason for having the fleet vehicle market monopolized was because the Crown Vic was basic, cheap and the rivals were all FWD. Had GM not dropped the B body Caprice, those would be ubiquitous today. They were always faster than the Vics too.
I whole-heartedly agree! Those new Fords look like something off of Robo-Cop.
 

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I say the best thing for the new sho eco boost model is to give it to police and let them run them ragged because that was the only way the crown vic got to be updated to where it ended up for nearly 10 years(Town cars, LX sports and marauders being at the top). Everyone knows there is speed potential in those late model vic with some forced induction and with a ton of room a remote turbo solves the lack of power. Diff years got diff aluminum parts lot of swapping can be done to drop some wieght and help that a little. Sucks Ford planned to do the vic dirty like that, only to do a 180 and make this very complex car. Reliability in something so complex...hmmmm time will tell. Maybe the shos will have little better parts for better years and people will know to mix and match them.
 

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I miss the Panthers. Thank goodness there are millions of them out there ;) My town has 09 Chargers now.
 

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I miss the Panthers. Thank goodness there are millions of them out there ;) My town has 09 Chargers now.
A lot of NJ State Troopers have the Chargers as well as The old P71's, and some police Impala's.

In my town they run Crown Vics and Durango's. We have a lot of open woods here so having the trucks benifit them. I dont know how those Explorers would hold up on the trails here.
 

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Lol....That's ironic as hell! As I recall, no one really paid a whole lot of attention to the Taurus until Robocop made 'em look kinda cool. Yes, I was a full fledged over-forty Ford guy and I didnt.

http://www.ford-taurus.org/taurusinfo/Specials/Robocop.php

And it's all relative.. pretty sure the cops will like them better than they liked these:
http://policecarwebsite.net/fc/copcarsite/fairmont2.html
I wasn't aware that many departments used the midsize LTDs, I remember all of them having these and then replacing them with the '92s midway through the 90s...



I love those cop cars, especially the 351 4bbl ones they had until 1991. :D
 

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Not many did, when the 83 fox LTDs came out they were marketed to departments in the same way the current Taurus is (hence my lack of confidence in them). They were the only cars that the 5.0 H.O in them besides the Mustang at the time, and civilian LTDs (excluding the uber rare LX) couldn't even get a V8.
 

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I saw a car trailer hauling 8 of the new Taurus Interceptors earlier this week. I wish I could have gotten a picture however my camera wouldn't load on my phone (glitching out). It was neat though.
 

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I'll reserve judgement until they are proven as a police utility vehicle.

In the meantime, I will continue to enjoy my 2 Panthers :D Been a Panther fan since Dad brought home the 84 w/ the heavy duty suspension under it, which I still own today.
 

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I hope the new taurus does good. I think an AWD police car is an awesome idea.

My family has an Edge Limited. V6 with AWD and that thing will corner like its no tomorrow. I out cornered a Benz CL55 AMG. Criminals are getting more daring and getting faster cars. IF they cant catch them on pure speed they need to do it on handling.

I predict that the Taurus will handle way way better than the crown vic ever would, and i hope they stay reliable.
 
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