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A friend and I went to Yellowstone and saw this just past the point where we were going to end our hike:



And somehow missed this, which we were looking for, and was at the beginning:
 

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A bear in Yellowstone was a surprise?

And what was the carcass?

Great pics though!
 

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A bear is a suprise when you've been to Yellowstone several times and never seen a bear. Then you're walking two miles up a closed road and see one. Good thing it wasn't a grizzly!

I think that was a deer. When you see a dead deer, you get kind of worried. How fast can a deer run, and how fast can 265 lb. me run? My friend was in football and track back in highschool, I don't do exercise. I'd be dead if it were a larger or agressive bear. It was fairly docile, but I was still on my guard.

Luckily it was just a little one. When my relatives have lived up here for about 20 years and never seen one that close, I'm suprised.
 

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LOL reminds me of the old joke about two friend who come across a bear. One of them starts running and the other says "Wait, you can't outrun a bear!" The first one says "I don't have to outrun the bear, I only have to outrun you!" :D

And under those circumstances, I guess it would be surprising.
 

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Bears are no joke, I hate em. I would never camp in a area with bears...If I did I'd bring some TCCoA gun club guys with me! :D
 

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One shot, One Kill.....

all you need is one.....

Sako 30-06
 

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Did you pet it? :)
 

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haha, thats crazy man. although, I doubt that black bear was responsible for the dead deer. It was probably something else....
 

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lol...^^^
 

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Didn't pet it. Probably could've. I just didn't want to touch it when it could turn around and swipe at me.
 

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haha, thats crazy man. although, I doubt that black bear was responsible for the dead deer. It was probably something else....
Probably a cougar or grizzly bear. Could have also been a pack of wolves. I was within 10 feet of a mama black bear with her 3-4 cubs at the Shenandoah National Park in the Virginia mountains. It was cool.
 

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I'd definately have to say that carcas is from a deer. Look at the picture, the upper left corner you can see a deer leg w/hoof still attached to it.

I love Yellowstone. Went there as a kid, saw wolves, grizzleys, elk, deer, and a few mooses. The weird thing about a bear. If you've ever seen one skinned hanging from a tree....it looks like a human honestly....it's kinda freaky!
 

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I'm from the area originally. That's a black bear, and black bears are far less aggressive than grizzlies. A griz has no fear of man.

Best thing you could have done if you were worried is to make a lot of noise and flail your arms around...he'd have run off.

As for packing heat in a national park - it's a felony. I wouldn't do it.

The wolves up there are the most dangerous killing machine. A pack of wolves is the most efficient hunting/killing machine in North America, and there's nothing they can't take down.

I've been up close to both grizzlies and black bears. It's unnerving to say the least. But it's important to know the difference between the two.

Also, to you guys who think a Dirty Harry gun is good bear medicine, you need to remember a couple things. First, a grizzly can sprint at 40mph. That means if he's 100 yards away, he can be all over you in about 3 seconds. Think you can squeeze off a lethal shot from a handgun on a moving target that quick? If you can, you're a better shot than most.

Second, handguns don't have the killing power of a rifle or a shotgun. A .44 mag puts a 300g round out at what....maybe 1300-1400 fps? Compare that to my 7mm Ultramag that can put a 175g round out at over 3000 fps. Unless that pistol round goes into the mouth or the nose, it's probably not going to be a lethal shot on a griz. The rifle will have much better penetration.

Studies show (and this is what we had when I worked for the USFS just outside of yellowstone for 7 years), that a deterrent is a better idea - yep, a big 'ol can of pepper spray. That'll buy you the time to get up a tree or get the heck out of there.

Next best is a shotgun loaded with 00 buckshot and with a wide open choke. At close range, that's about guaranteed to get some pellets in the nose - the most sensitive part of a griz.

Like I said, wolves are a lot more scary to me. Good luck getting 10 at once.
 

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As for packing heat in a national park - it's a felony. I
wouldn't do it.
They're working on that:
http://www.packing.org/news/articleview/165/
http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c109:S.4057.IS:

Also, National Parks aren't the only places where you might have a bear want to "chat" with you. FWIW, check out the ballistics on the .460 and .500 that S&W have put out. Not your typical .44 Magnum. Not my first choice, but better then nothing. My first choice would be, ummm, the hell away from a hungry wild animal!
 
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