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if i get a hid conversion kit and use my stock wiring harness will it perform to the best it can. plus i need a site where i can order the harness online. wasnt there an ebay source that sold the harnesses too?>
 

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You use the stock harness and your gonna destroy something, they were never built for that kind of power.
 

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well it depends on what kit you get. the kit i got couldnt connect to my stock harness so i made it into a switch type as it turns on when the switch is turned on.

about using a better harness for hid's i dont think that makes sense. the hid's require 35 watts and our stock harness' use 65 watts? the power needs to go from the ballast to the bulb itself. the ballast connects to the headlight socket *if you get the right kit* but if it doesnt then connect it via power and ground. anyway the comp harness lets you go from producing 65 watts to 100/80 watts. now correct me if im wrong but is it neccesary to force 100 watts through a system that require only 35? That is why you dont need the harness.

You use the stock harness and your gonna destroy something
hmmm nice advice to give. which hid kit do you have? :cool:

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Im just speaking from my experiene. I dont have HIDs myself, but a former co-worker did the conversion and after a while the stock wiring just gave out. I dont remember what kit he had, but after using a new harness everything worked fine.
 

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porkchop2oo2 said:


yea yea i know i got bored..lol

-Mike
This is probably a silly question, but why not just wire the switched 12v for the original headlight to a relay?!?! No switch, no wiring through the dash, full operation just like the OEM setup and the HID is on it's own circuit.

And on a sidenote, what did you do about high beam?
 

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94 Daily Driven 4.6L said:
And on a sidenote, what did you do about high beam?
You LOSE them!

HID conversions are totally illegal. All they do is piss on-coming traffic off! I hate seeing those things coming a mile down the road... blinding me the entire time! I get pissed, and just flash my high beams at them.

-Kornhaus
 

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Very true (and I knew they were illegal) but I was just curious how people handled the high beams.. :D
 

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94 Daily Driven 4.6L said:
Very true (and I knew they were illegal) but I was just curious how people handled the high beams.. :D
I had a set of HID's in my car, for about 6-7 months, a year or so ago. And I tell you what, they sucked. No only for the fact that I lost my high beams, but because our headlamps aren't designed for HID's. Now, when I get finished with my headlamp project (projector headlamps), I will have HID low AND high beam. It will be completely legal, and will not piss on-coming traffic off!

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I can't wait to see your headlights, Scott. They've been in progress for a while, but they sound like they're going to be worth the wait. I have to re-do mine soon, I rushed through the wiring and burned out one of my projectors... :( But that just means I get to use better stuff this time. :D
 

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94 Daily Driven 4.6L said:
This is probably a silly question, but why not just wire the switched 12v for the original headlight to a relay?!?! No switch, no wiring through the dash, full operation just like the OEM setup and the HID is on it's own circuit.
well maybe because it already was there before i had my hid's put on. i already had the setup running to my foglights which i took off seeing how i got them at rice zone. i got hella ff75's sittin right next to me and as soon as it stops raining im going for it. i was going to relay it to the headlights through the harness but with my setup not it has its own fuse and i wont burn out the stock one for the headlight harness's. i dunno it was already there and im lazy :D

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Where can I get a dependable kit with ballasts? About how much? How long do they last? Do the ballasts burn out before the bulbs usually? Thanks just curious
-Rob
 

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search 9007 hid on ebay and you'll find a couple of hid kits. they will have all the info regarding life and such. they actually last longer seeing how they use less than half the wattage than a stock bulb.

-Mike
 

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so pretty much its not the stock harness thats doin all the work its the harness from the ballast to the lights itself that really matter
 

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Rob said:
Where can I get a dependable kit with ballasts? About how much? How long do they last? Do the ballasts burn out before the bulbs usually? Thanks just curious
-Rob
As porkchop2oo2 said, eBay will probably be your best bet! I seem "HID kits" on their ALL the time. Just be wery to what you buy. Also, I will fore warn you... that you will probably get pulled over for accessive light output.

They usually run between $300-$500, depending on what type of set up you do/purchase. That may sound high, but when Xenon first came out, it was strictly for HIGH END vehicles. The first Auxiliary light was like $1,500.00, and that was a single lamp!!! So he price has substantially come down.

Most HID/Xenon kits last 2-3 times longer than a normal Halogen bulb. The more you turn off and on the lights, the shorter a life-span you will get. Therefore, the life-expectance varies quite often.

Since the bulbs (actually called capsules) do not have a filament, they technically will burn forever. The only way they usually go bad, is if they are broken, or submerged in something (usually water). As for the ballasts, those tend to go bad every once in a while. I get a call, maybe once a month, about someone's ballast malfunctioning (going out). I have then send it to me, and upon inspection, sometimes they are defective. The other times, the consumer is just an idiot, and doesn't know what they are talking about.

That should just about wrap all of your questions up. If you have any other questions, let me know.

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ok well i'm pretty new when it comes to trying different lighting methods but i had a few questions. i use silverstars right now and they're bright but not what i'm looking for. now porkchop2002 i think you have some of the nicest lights i've seen so far. and basically is just what i was trying to find. now from what i was reading the hid conversion eliminates your high beams. i think that would be retawded. so what's the best way to go? i wanna keep high beams, low beams, and not blind people but still get that hid look. if anybody can clue me i'd appreciate it.

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well you only loose your high beams if you have a 94+ birdie. on the 94+ birds we have a different headlight bulb *size 9007*. any or cougar lower than 94 used 2 pairs of bulbs size *9006 and 9005*. the 9006 is your headlight bulbs and when you turn on your high beams *aka 9005* those bulbs light up also. for the 94+ mn12's we have 9007 which is a single bulb that is our hi/low beams in the same bulb. so a conversion would be cool on pre 94 seeing how you wont loose your high beams since you would only be replacing the headlight bulbs *aka 9006*.

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oh ok well that seems better. on the wiring for the hids what do i have to do to get the most life outta them? basically what all do i need to get them working on a pre 94 birdie. also what does this 60005-9000k stuff mean? is the higher the better? and whats a good company to go thru?
 

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the K rating is the Kelvin rating. The color temperature of the light output. The higher the kelvin rating the more color you will get from the bulb. If you want more OEM HID lighting color, you wanna go with the lower kelvin rating.
 

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in simpler terms

lower the K the more light output ie. 4,200K

higher the K the "cooler the color" ie. 12,000K

i beleive 4200K is ideal but as far as i know the lowest aftermarket kit ive seen is 5000k which i have
 
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