I know this thread was locked for some reason but I just saw that commercial where the Bird had to brake in the turn. Where did they get that Bull**** from. I have driven both cars and I must saw that althought the Jetta is German built and handles great, I assure you that my Bird would have to slow down to keep from running into the rear of it. On 18 x 8's and Eibachs, I took a many an on and off ramps, without the wife of course, at speeds that exceeded most speed limits and the car held beautifully. In the emmortal words of Public Enemy "Don't believe the hype!!!!"