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I'm doing 1995 for 300 HP kit. Here is the prices Ford dealer gave me:

F7AZ-7F251-AA-- 1-2 Accumulator.............-- $20.38
F75Z-7F284-BA-- 1-2 Top Spring............... -- $6.96
F6AZ-7A194-A -- Deep sump pan............. -- $30.29
F6AZ-7A098-A -- Filter & Seal................... -- $26.64
EOAZ-7D189-A -- Reverse Servo............... -- $21.92
F75Z-7H188-AA-- 2.7" OD Servo............... -- $29.57
F87Z-7F201-AA-- 2.7" OD S. Spring............ -- $6.60
F2VY-7C155-A -- Separator Gasket........... -- $6.34
F5AZ-7D100-A -- Separator Gasket........... -- $8.81
F4AZ-7F247-A -- 1-2. Accumulator Cover... -- $9.23
F2VY-7A191-A -- Tranny Gasket................ -- $21.95 (optional)

Everything with tax totals at $201.90, AND the guy says P/N for 2-3 Accumulator is obsolite and he can't find it. (F7AZ-7H292-BA)

Are these prices fair?

I got 149k, no tranny service from 110k, should I get the tranny gasket?
 

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That seems pretty damn high. What you should do is become an member ($40 for a year), and you will save that in the J-Mod parts alone (of damn close to it).
Not sure if I should give out numbers/places to "non-members", so sorry about that.
The parts I believe should be around $100. I have a brand new deep sump pan I can sell ya cheap if you want.
Not sure about that p/n though, may just wanna do a search.
 

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mad281 said:

F6AZ-7A194-A -- Deep sump pan............. -- $30.29
EOAZ-7D189-A -- Reverse Servo............... -- $21.92
F75Z-7H188-AA-- 2.7" OD Servo............... -- $29.57
F87Z-7F201-AA-- 2.7" OD S. Spring............ -- $6.60
F2VY-7A191-A -- Tranny Gasket................ -- $21.95 (optional)
Don't buy these things and save yourself alot of money. Also, the gaskets (sep. plate) should be no more than $4 each, if they are, you're getting ripped off.

Also, if they can't find a 2-3 accumulator, you talked to a moron. Tell them you need a 2-3 accumulator piston for a 2000 Mustang GT 4R70W. They make them, and it's not hard to find on a computer.
 

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Member? How you become a member?
 

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Go to tccoa.com the front page look to the upper right corner and look for the join button.

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yeah, you're getting raped. All the parts you need and the fluid should be just under/over $100 (it was around there for me). But I already had the pan
 

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if you do the work yourself and its for a 95 for the 300 horsepower setting, well mine was 107$$
 

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Turbocat....

I can understand not doing the reverse servo, but isn't there a more positive engagement of the OD band if you upgrade to the 2.7 servo? Wouldn't this save wear on the OD band?

Also, isn't the deep sump pan a good idea? Doesn't it keep the pump from sucking air on hard corners?

Mad281....

If you go to Autozone, you can get a 97 deep sump filter for $15. Don't ask for a 95, or 96...they will give you the flat one without the intake tube that fits in the sump.
 

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Yea, I'm doing work myself. Can you give me an idea which parts you installed, which you didn't, and if possible prices for the parts if you still have the reciept or remember?

I went to beach ford in North Miami Beach. They claim they are the most prestigious ford dealer around here, they even have Beach in their name, even thought they're 3 or 4 miles away from any beach! Total gheddo. :leftright I'll probably check out prices at other dealers.

As for member stuff, I'm a member of SFO, I don't own a t-bird.
 

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Unless you have a friend at a dealer, they are gonna charge you LIST.
(Or on the Platinum Coast - more than list!)
Try an online ford dealer, like Fordparts.com or 5-Star Ford. That will get you about 30% off of list. Or you can also get most of it at any good rebuilders supply MUCH cheaper. Notice I said good, don't buy junk. Stick with dealers in Transtek, Transtar, etc.

As for your dealer being 3-4 miles from any beach - anything that far from the beach IS a getto. The Rich line the shore, with the masses of poor inland behind them... :confused:
 

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Eh.. who needs 4th gear... redline is like 110/120 (can't remember) in 3rd... :)

85 in 2nd... :)

Can't argue with that...

Although that won't be the case once i get my 4.10s...


On a serious note, don't really need to do most of the "optional" things. I'd leave the 1-2 top spring in. 1-2 is pretty harsh otherwise. Don't need to do the reverse or OD. The OD gain isn't worth the hassle, it's pretty easy to screw up the OD, and you won't know you screwed up until it's back together and your driving it.
 

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GregFL, man. You're my best friend from now on! Everything from Fordparts.com totals to $100.24, and if I get that filter from AutoZone it be under $100!!!
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F7AZ-7F251-AA -- PISTON ASSEMBLY-TRANS 1-2.............$10.46
F75Z-7F284-BA -- SPRING-TRANS 1-2 SHI.......................$2.75
F6AZ-7A194-A -- PAN-TRANS OIL..................................$17.27
F6AZ-7A098-A -- FILTER & SEAL ASSEMBLY-TR.............$20.51
EOAZ-7D189-A -- PISTON ASSEMBLY-TRANS REV..........$10.23
F75Z-7H188-AA -- PISTON & ROD ASSEMBLY-TRA..........$16.86
F87Z-7F201-AA -- SPRING-TRANS O/DRIVE...................$2.60
F2VY-7C155-A -- GASKET-TRANS CONTR V...................$2.31
F5AZ-7D100-A -- GASKET-TRANS VLV BOD....................$3.21
F4AZ-7F247-A -- COVER & SEAL ASSEMBLY-TRA...........$3.64
F2VY-7A191-A -- GASKET-TRANS OIL PAN.....................$10.40

These prices from Fordparts are about 60% less of what that dealer wanted. :tongue: I am doing the complete j-mod, including OD and reverse.

And the gasket for upper intake manifold to replace my EGR costs $3.72, I payed $9.42 before tax at that gheddo dealer today!!! Let that be the last time I shopped there! I usually eyeball new mustangs when I drive through there, not any more. I'm disgusted with people at that dealership, I'll make sure I caution people from buying there whenever I can.


NOW, THE PROBLEM:

Part number given in Tranny 101 for 1995 2-3 Accumulator is incorrect. Neither dealer nor Fordparts.com has it listed: F7AZ-7H292-BA

However, I just entered it as -AB instead of -BA and it gave me:
F7AZ-7H292-AB.............TRANS- 2-3 ACUM PST
 

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mad281 said:

NOW, THE PROBLEM:

Part number given in Tranny 101 for 1995 2-3 Accumulator is incorrect. Neither dealer nor Fordparts.com has it listed: F7AZ-7H292-BA

However, I just entered it as -AB instead of -BA and it gave me:
F7AZ-7H292-AB.............TRANS- 2-3 ACUM PST
Yes some of the part #'s listed in the tech articles are not valid anymore. But usually Max will tell you the new ones when you call.

You really don't need to do the reverse servo and OD. Not really worth it. Unless you really like tranny fluid in your face and want to risk screwing up the OD. I would say that 98% of us with J-mods didn't do the OD/Reverse. And of those who did the OD, about half have problems, not very good odds. There is A LOT of fluid in the reverse bore, so that will dump all over you (i got it in the face). I did the reverse servo, but bought the parts for the OD, but didn't do it.
 

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The thing is, I'm doing j-mod on 1996 cat for a guy, and he wants to replace OD spring. So by the time I get to mine I'll have some practise already. I work carefully on things like that, so I don't expect to screw up. I'll have to see thought, I'll read the article again and compare prices, perhaps you right, 149k tranny might not need this at all. Though, in tranny 101 it says do reverse servo for maximum torque?

BTW: You just reminded me to bring my old chemistry apron for the job.
 

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Latest news. I'm doing everything expect reverse and OD. Total cost, including brake spray and tranny gasket and shipping, is $88.xx.. Thank you all for your recommendations today, it really helped. Special thanx to GregFL!
 

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you don't need the pan gasket, your old one is reusable.

Secondly, put the money you saved on the gasket towards a 98+ deep sump pan with drainplug.

Money well spent.

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What can you tell me about valve cover gaskets? Do I need those when installing new (used) valve covers?
 

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I second some of the above advice. Skip the reverse servo - you will gain nothing.
I would do the OD piston/spring, but you have to be very careful to get it aligned properly. It will increase OD apply pressure and reduce slippage on the highway.

Get the dimpled pan, it is needed for vigorous driving - you will starve the tranny during hard stops and cornering without it. And make certain that you get the right filter - it has a pickup tube - when you do. (97->)

Good Luck.
 

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you don't need the pan gasket, your old one is reusable.

Secondly, put the money you saved on the gasket towards a 98+ deep sump pan with drainplug.

Money well spent.

:)
Nah, don't make that mistake. That pan cost like twice as much, you can get the normal deep sump and buy a plug kit for $4.

-J
 

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