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So I just found out I inherited my grandmother's 2001 Crown Victoria. Don't know miles, color, or anything but I know that since new it's been to go to town and back, so it's most likely less than 100,000 miles, Texas car so no rust, and has been garage maintained. Any known problem spots on these? Are the 01's PI?

It'll be nice to have a full sized car for when I need more room, just looking for info on the car.

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pretty sure any 4.6 after 99 came PI. look at the intake manifold, if the first port on the manifold is on the drivers side it's PI if it's on the passenger side it's npi.
post some pics when you get the car
 

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pretty sure any 4.6 after 99 came PI. look at the intake manifold, if the first port on the manifold is on the drivers side it's PI if it's on the passenger side it's npi.
post some pics when you get the car
Will do. It'll be this spring most likely. I don't get home to Texas too often, and my twin nephews will be arriving around Valentine's day, so I figured my daughter and I could fly down March or April, meet the munchkins, have some family time, and drive home in a luxo-boat.
 

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Yes, the Crown Vic/Grand Marquis/Town Car got the PI engine starting in 2001.

Other than the composite coolant crossover (cracking, like on all nPI original intakes), there are a few things, like poorly designed chain tensioners (car will sound like a sewing machine), metal chips between head and block (weeping oil at the drivers rear head), these are thing you MIGHT find, but probably won't.

I wanted an 01 Grand Marquis, but I couldn't pass up the year old 2000 I got for 12k less than new, so I just was satisfied with nPI and used.

What model is it, base or an LX? Anything like rear air suspension, dual exhaust?

I love mine, a very nice vehicle for trips and moving a family with all the junk around. Big trunk but it is too deep for my wife, she has problems getting somethings out of it. I have 180k on mine with very little issues, it has been in 3 or 4 wrecks and in many of those any smaller car would have had a worse outcome (I guess it is too big and white to be seen by others).

www.crownvic.net is a good source of information and help.
 

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pretty sure any 4.6 after 99 came PI. look at the intake manifold, if the first port on the manifold is on the drivers side it's PI if it's on the passenger side it's npi.
post some pics when you get the car
Not everything after 99 was pi...the rest of the passenger cars aside from the mustang didn't get pi engines until mid-01....gotta check the manifold
 

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Yes, the Crown Vic/Grand Marquis/Town Car got the PI engine starting in 2001.

Other than the composite coolant crossover (cracking, like on all nPI original intakes), there are a few things, like poorly designed chain tensioners (car will sound like a sewing machine), metal chips between head and block (weeping oil at the drivers rear head), these are thing you MIGHT find, but probably won't.

I wanted an 01 Grand Marquis, but I couldn't pass up the year old 2000 I got for 12k less than new, so I just was satisfied with nPI and used.

What model is it, base or an LX? Anything like rear air suspension, dual exhaust?

I love mine, a very nice vehicle for trips and moving a family with all the junk around. Big trunk but it is too deep for my wife, she has problems getting somethings out of it. I have 180k on mine with very little issues, it has been in 3 or 4 wrecks and in many of those any smaller car would have had a worse outcome (I guess it is too big and white to be seen by others).

www.crownvic.net is a good source of information and help.
If it has the pi engine, then it has the updated pi intake, therefore not susceptible to cracking
 

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If it has the pi engine, then it has the updated pi intake, therefore not susceptible to cracking
Not true! Not until 2002 did they all come with the revised intake. 2001 Panthers till had the all plastic crossover non revised intake. I am not sure when Mustangs got the revised intake.
 

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First of all, let me say I'm sorry about the loss of your grandmother.

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I have a 2001 Mercury Grand Marquis and it is PI but it also has the plastic coolant cross over and I have a near new 2003 PI intake with aluminum cross over off a CVPI that I intend to install.

I love the car, it was Non HP meaning single exh and soft suspension, but I added Bilsteins and Addcos all way round and it went from a barge that plowed badly to a curve loving animal. I also added complete dual exhaust from a 2001 CV with HPP (except resonators, I used long TPs)and the lacey spoke aluminum wheels. It still has the 2.76 rear which suits our use which is a road or trip car.

It's been across country several times, it has about 65,000 on it now, gas mileage runs from low to mid high 20s. In 2006 on a 7.945 mile 21 day trip to Ca. and back with lots of running on old Rt 66 and Sequoia, Yosemite, Yellowstone, Rocky Mtn Nat Park, Nevada, Utah, Wyoming, etc ... overall average of just over 26 mpg and we had her stuffed with our things.

Huge trunk! I did add air bags which stay near empty except when toting a load or pulling my trailer. Added a cooler too. Thinking time for mild J-mod.

I had the steering wheel replaced under warranty because the leather was cracking a few years ago.

Been a good car with no issues since we purchased it December 2001.



I've had the lest three state police cars I was issued as Crown Vics, a '98, a '00 ( it was a reissue that already had 25 hard thousand miles on it when I got it) , and my last car was a '06. Normal maintenmace is all they took for thier lives, the '06 I turned in at 86K and another trooper has it now, still here and running though it did need a new cat on the rigfht side recently, near 115K now. The '98 and '00 went up over 120 and 135K each.

Dependable cars, tough, roomy, comfortable, and easy to find parts for for a long long time.
 

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The likelyhood of it having the all plastic intake is good. Something to watch out for. Again, the three things I would look out for most on a 2001.

I also added the helper airbags to mine so it doesn't look like I am smuggling illegals or dead hookers (6 will easily fit by the way).

At 180,000 miles I haven't replaced anything but the cruise buttons, heater core and shocks (other than wear items like brakes, tires, 2 or 3 COPs), I did buy a rear sway bar to add to it, and a larger front one, I also added the kit that makes it able to withstand a 70 mph rear hit (it won't, but it protects the gas tank from being punctured as easily). In the accidents it has gotten a WATTS linkage and one axle, front hub, and two ABS sensors.
 

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Thank you for the advice and condolences.

I haven't ever laid eyes on the car. I only know she used it to go into and out of town, so I'm guessing it probably has about 70K on it, has been dealer maintained it's life, and knowing my Grandmother, it's probably an LX but without the performance package. I'm not opposed to putting dual exhaust and good suspension under it. I'll join up on the crownvic.net site, and get to know things.

It'll be my backup car, for when I'm working on the Thunderbird or need more room, I know the trunks are massive, and I'm looking forward to going back home to pick it up this spring. I'm going to have my sister take it home and use it until then. I'll get her to take some pictures and get me some info on it.
 

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Woodman, just be careful about the titling and insurance. ;)

Earl .... you'll love it when you get it, and they are very affordable.

The picture previously was at Arche's Nat Park in '06

The one below is in eastern Ohio on one of the original pre 1920 sections of the Lincoln Highjway 2009. Originally made one lane wide of brick in 1912-14, later to widen it they simply moved the bricks apart sideways widening the roadway. This section is several miles long. Highway history!



And here she is Rt 66 near Manualito, NM 2008. We love to take road trips in her.





That's enough on a Bird forum I guess.
 

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What's to be careful of when titling and insuring it? Insurance shouldn't be a big deal, just attach it to my current policy as a second car, only need liability and glass coverage (lots of cold/heat + rocks equals worth the money), and for the title, I'll have to transfer it to my name in Texas, but I should have the paperwork from the will to help with that, then transfer it back again when I get to Minnesota. So once I pay the taxes in Texas, should be good to go.

Or am I missing something?
 

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What's to be careful of when titling and insuring it? Insurance shouldn't be a big deal, just attach it to my current policy as a second car, only need liability and glass coverage (lots of cold/heat + rocks equals worth the money), and for the title, I'll have to transfer it to my name in Texas, but I should have the paperwork from the will to help with that, then transfer it back again when I get to Minnesota. So once I pay the taxes in Texas, should be good to go.

Or am I missing something?
You have a car that's inherited in Texas, someone will send you paperwork to sign, that will go to Texas DMV to get title, then someone will send you paperwork for tags and to certify insurance coverage and you send it back, and then a car with your name and your insurance is going to be driven and garaged by a family member for months in Texas while you are in Minn. There will be taxes as well.

You may not have any problems at all, not trying to spook you or say anything about anyone .... but you will be doing something that has it's pitfalls when done in your home state .... except you'll be doing it in Texas while you reside in Minn.

Check everything, make sure things like VIN and such are 100% correct. It's just a cautionary note as I have seen people really get into some screwed up situations depending on others to do certain checks, like others who didn't place as great a value on getting it right.

No kidding, I've seen people have awful times with insurance companies after a wreck because of mis stated VINs or dates being wrong on stuff.

I'm just suggesting that you be careful, dilligent, and rely on old No 1 to get it right, that was all.

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My grandfather passed away last Friday. He is in Texas, and my father just asked me if I wanted his 2000 Town Car (Cartier L 6 inch stretch). While it would be a nice replacement for my 2000 Grand Marquis, I passed, I figure they can sell it with everything else and go from there.

It is a nice vehicle, it is a opalescent color like my 97 Cougar, and more leg room would be nice, but it has more miles than my Grand Marquis, however those would be much nicer miles than mine has suffered over the years.
 

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You have a car that's inherited in Texas, someone will send you paperwork to sign, that will go to Texas DMV to get title, then someone will send you paperwork for tags and to certify insurance coverage and you send it back, and then a car with your name and your insurance is going to be driven and garaged by a family member for months in Texas while you are in Minn. There will be taxes as well.

You may not have any problems at all, not trying to spook you or say anything about anyone .... but you will be doing something that has it's pitfalls when done in your home state .... except you'll be doing it in Texas while you reside in Minn.

Check everything, make sure things like VIN and such are 100% correct. It's just a cautionary note as I have seen people really get into some screwed up situations depending on others to do certain checks, like others who didn't place as great a value on getting it right.

No kidding, I've seen people have awful times with insurance companies after a wreck because of mis stated VINs or dates being wrong on stuff.

I'm just suggesting that you be careful, dilligent, and rely on old No 1 to get it right, that was all.

:)
I appreciate the info, and your insight. My plan was to leave all the paperwork till I go down in March or April while my sister insures it with basic coverage for short term. That way, while I'm down in Texas I can get it all handled. But, if they can get me the paperwork early and I can get things handled, then it'll all be good too. I'm still waiting on info, so we'll see how it goes, but I will be cautious and dot my I's and cross my T's.
 

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Got more info on the Crown Vic today...

It's Tan, body's in good shape, no dents that my sister could see. It's Grandma Tan, been under a carport when it was parked, 10 years old, and has a whopping 15,394 miles on it.

Bearing in mind the car is in Texas, I have to guess it's on the original set of tires. How long does it take for dry rot to set in on tires? Should I just go ahead and get a set of tires for it and call it good? I do need to get snow tires for it since I live in Minnesota, but I'm just concerned about the stock tires being rotted and driving 1500 miles home on them this April.
 
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