TCCoA Forums banner

1 - 20 of 28 Posts

·
Registered
Joined
·
1,382 Posts
Discussion Starter #1
Trying to get my old shock/strut assembly out, and the bolt that holds it to the lower control arm is being a royal c*nt :mad:.

Any tips on getting this thing out? I've been pounding on it already, and the bolt is starting to mushroom. The head won't turn, even after the clip that keeps it from turning has been removed.

I have done a search and found that there is something that has to be split? Looked on both sides but didn't see anything uncommon.

The car is old, and it's probably rusted in there.

Will an impact do the trick?
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
168 Posts
I've never used an impact on one, but it's worth a shot. Worst case scenario, you can always cut the bolt off and drive it out with a punch or screwdriver. You have to buy a new bolt anyways, so you've got nothing to lose. I got lucky, mine wasn't rusted and it came out relatively easy.

I'm sure somebody on here can help you out more than I did, just thought I'd offer my opinion.


Good luck,


Brian. :)
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
1,382 Posts
Discussion Starter #3
I gotta buy a new one anyways then Brian? Well then, I do have a nice saw-sawl that rarely gets used :diablo: .

So if I'm going to cut/grind the little beggers out, what do I replace them with - OEM Ford bolts, or just visit my local hardware store and get some Grade 8 bolts (or whatever grade is recomended)?

I hate dealing with my local dealer - it's like he's conning me and I go along with it knowingly :rolleyes: .
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
168 Posts
Well, if you could get the bolt out without cutting it maybe you could re-use it. I'm just assuming that if the bolt is that much of a b*tch to get loose that it's pretty much shot even if you don't have to cut it.

For something like that, I would think you would have to go to the dealer to get the correct part. That's what I would do anyways...even though I hate hate hate buying parts from the dealer because of that not-so-fresh feeling that a person always has after making a purchase there. :(

I'm sure somebody else can offer some more insight...I'm no mastertech, I'm just merely offering my opinion because I know how frustrating these things can be. :)

take care,

Brian.
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
4,205 Posts
Man, what's up with everyone having so much trouble with that bolt? I just use a hammer and punch, and they slide right out, but I'd suspect yours is held in there with a bunch of rust. You can try to zap it with an impact, if you can get to it, and try to loosen it up, but get some PB Blaster, and keep spraying and working on it. Search through the last weeks threads also, 2 other people have had this same problem.
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
3,192 Posts
you can get in there with an impact, done it many times. spray it down then work the impact back and forth. if all else fails cut it off and go get some from ford, they are called cam bolts.
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
2,314 Posts
I busted a 21 MM socket holding the nut on that the first time I did it (at least I think that is what I broke that socket on). But I was able to get it out by hand, I don't think I even used any penatrating oil on it?
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
3,192 Posts
was it a regular socket or an impact socket? ive never broken an impact socket before so im just curious. also on a side note its probably a good idea to replace the cam bolt anyways as the nut is a lock nut and shouldnt be re-used.
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
1,382 Posts
Discussion Starter #9
Well I'll give it one more go now that it's had a night soaked in WD40 (what's PB blaster anyways :confused: ).

If that doesn't work - I'll get my brother to bring his air tank and impact over. More than likely the head will just twist off the bolt.

Yeah, I don't know why it's being such a ***** - even though there's probably rust in there, I'm no wimp and have been smashing the stuff out of that bolt, and it won't move.

So if I'm looking for Cam bolts - I'll check my hardware store first - I HATE my local dealer's parts and service 'advisors'. Ford's biggest problem right there, lousy service.

Oh, about the search - I did that, and there was talk about something getting split in there, and didn't know what to split, or what to look for. Unless that only applies to later models or something.

Thanks guys,

Kevin.
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
3,192 Posts
pb blaster is kinda like wd-40 except alot better. one other quick tip, jack up on the control arm to let off the pressure on that bolt when you go to take it out.
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
2,314 Posts
PB blaster is a type of penatrating oil. It seems to work the best for removing rusted fasteners.

It was a chrome socket that a broke (the 21MM). Just broke it with a regular breaker bar. No cheater or anything.
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
7,758 Posts
FordFanatic said:
pb blaster is kinda like wd-40 except alot better....
A lot, lot better!! :thumbsup:

I've used them both as a penetrating fluid, and the PB Blaster runs circles around WD-40.

You probably won't want to hear this, but I just did mine a few days ago and I was able to push most of the bolts out by hand, including the upper A arm ball joint bolt. :leftright

But the day before I had soaked everything with the PB Blaster. And the fact that this car has never seen snow or salt probably helps. :D

Good luck. :thumbsup:
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
1,382 Posts
Discussion Starter #13
the fact that this car has never seen snow or salt probably helps. :D
Yeah, that's probably why ;).

Well, I physical with it again today, and with no better results even after letting it sit overnight with the WD40.

Am going to see if Canadian Tire carries the PB Blaster stuff, if they don't - nobody else will have it up here either.

There isn't any of the car's weight on the bolt, the strut is unbolted at the top and the suspension is fully relaxed.

But if I'm resigned to buying new bolts anyways - may as well just butcher the thing.

What I've got to do is find a nice FL or GA car, something that's never seen salt. My brother picked up a Mustang from OK a year or two ago, and even though it's a 15 year old body - everything comes apart so nice.
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
708 Posts
The solution is surprisingly simple, and im almost offended that your thread got this big and noone could reliably answer your question.
that bolt runs through a split metal sleeve. its holdin on to that friggin bolt. sharpen a screwdriver, or punch, and split it open just a hair, bolt will slide out.
took me two days to figure it out.
impact guns at this stage will only ruin your bushings
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
20 Posts
I had a problem getting that shock to lca bolt out, i beat on that with a hammer, used a puller, to no avail. So what I did was put an open end wrench between the lca and ear on the shock, over the rubber bushing, then one wack with the hammer and it was out. That works because the rubber bushing it rides in soaks up the impact of the hammer when you beat on it, but if you put the wrench in there, it keeps the force of the impact on the bolt instead of letting the rubber soak it up.
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
1,382 Posts
Discussion Starter #16
Hey Modbird,

you're saying there's a sleeve that's holding the bolt tight, inside the bushing?

I'm assuming the part you'd split would be the side where the nut came off?

Does it split horizontaly, or vertically? I'm not at home at the moment, but will try out your tip in the morning.

Also Curt, the wrench se4ems like a good idea, will try that as well if the splitting doesn't work.
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
708 Posts
yeah, just take a look at it, clean it good and youll see the split line. it runs the length of the sleeve. surprisingly simple once you see it. i beat the living sh1t out of mine for two days before i saw the little line. i sharpened a screwdriver and hammered it in there, that bolt poped right out. good luck
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
1,382 Posts
Discussion Starter #18
Hmmm, took a wire brush to it this aft, and never seen the line.

Didn't matter anyways, my brother showed up with his air compressor and we simply used the air-hammer to pound the bolts out.

Both bolts are fine (need ends ground a bit), and no damage to the bushings.

All we gotta do now is get the springs and shocks changed over and I can put it all back together :ztoohot: .

Thanks for all the help guys,

Kevin.
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
364 Posts
I'm doing my fronts right now.... this is insane.

I finally cut the shock off the car to get it out of the way. I used some rust check spray stuff and borrowed some Lloyds MOOVEIT tonight.. sprayed it on.

With the nut of I was able to turn the bolt and the sleeve, then I was able to jsut torn the botl by its self. Me swinging a baby sledge i cant get this thing to move. Sharpened a flatbastard. pounding on that tog et the sleeve open, no go.

I borrowed my teachers air chisel and gun. I'm probably going to go and rent a compressor to see if I can get this ***** pounded out. I was this close to just taking the LCA out and buying a new one but that bolt seems like its being a whore aswell..

:ztoohot: :mad: :ztoohot:


that was just before I cut the shock out...
 

·
Whining Intakes Rock
Joined
·
3,645 Posts
I would have taken a cut off tool to it a long time ago... you must have more patience than me. I better go get some more air tool goodies before I tackle my front end.
 
1 - 20 of 28 Posts
Top