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I just picked up an oil pan and pickup from a 98 Mark VIII (yes I searched). I didn't know they had so much internal baffling already. Are they all like this? I know the 97~98 had the larger diameter pickup tube. It looks like if I used it in conjunction with the Canton windage tray, one or the other is going to needing a trimming from the grinder.
 

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The canton is for mustangs and won't "fit" an MN12 pan. With trimming it should, but would it still be worth the benefit
 

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gecko2424 said:
The canton is for mustangs and won't "fit" an MN12 pan. With trimming it should, but would it still be worth the benefit
Yes,it will benefit.
He'll need to trim the baffling in the pan,and some of the "scraper" off of the pickup tube.
JL
 

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nickmckinney said:
Thanks

JL - whats the latest word on the oil pump fiasco with the billet gears sucking too?

I imagine I will be running the 2V pump with the Tbird pickup with my mild build.
I'm running a set of billet gears from a local speed shop.
They'll have more gears in a couple of weeks,and these DO NOT wear,and the clearances are right.
If you want any,call Daniel at Triangle Speed Shop.
(409) 883-2150
He has them for the 2V and the 4V oil pumps.
JL
 

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hey johnny just cause im curious how mutch hp and torque are you making at the wheels and what power area does it take to reach a flat 13.00 to 13.3
 

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hey johnny just cause im curious how mutch hp and torque are you making at the wheels and what power area does it take to reach a flat 13.00 to 13.3
Last dyno with the old low-lift cams when they were mistimed was 287 rwhp,and 292 ft-lbs.
I haven't been back since the new cams were installed properly.
I'm pretty sure you can pull off a 13.00 with around 235 rwhp.
It all depends alot on the total package. I see several cars at the track with 400rwhp that can barely run a 12.50.
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Johnny Langton said:
I'm running a set of billet gears from a local speed shop.
They'll have more gears in a couple of weeks,and these DO NOT wear,and the clearances are right.
If you want any,call Daniel at Triangle Speed Shop.
(409) 883-2150
He has them for the 2V and the 4V oil pumps.
JL
What do those run? $$$$?

I have some supposedly billet gears here, but I have yet to inspect them and their clearances, they came out of a used motor, just haven't opened the pump yet.
 

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What do those run? $$$$?

I have some supposedly billet gears here, but I have yet to inspect them and their clearances, they came out of a used motor, just haven't opened the pump yet.
I don't know what the current batch will cost-best thing is to call Daniel to see. The way metal prices are fluctuating lately-I'm sure the price will jump around a bit.
JL
 

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Talked to a different guy there this morning, off the top of his head he thought they were about $375.00
 

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Talked to a different guy there this morning, off the top of his head he thought they were about $375.00
That's right around what they were when I got mine.
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I'm going to inspect the unit I have hear to see what I actually got from the guy, for all I know they are stock, hah.

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They look like the right pieces.... clearances look like they are possibly more than double stock clearance, I dunno if that is really bad or just "OK" for maintaining proper oil pressure.... hmmmm.....

I'm gunna measure the clearance to the case as well, and Tear apart another stock pump I have here, These bastard little T-30 screws are in bastard tight, and my T30 is either a piece of crap, or these screws are ramped too much, and are very easy to round off the heads. I already drilled one screw out of this pump. [email protected]#[email protected]



 

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I'm going to inspect the unit I have hear to see what I actually got from the guy, for all I know they are stock, hah.

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They look like the right pieces.... clearances look like they are possibly more than double stock clearance, I dunno if that is really bad or just "OK" for maintaining proper oil pressure.... hmmmm.....

I'm gunna measure the clearance to the case as well, and Tear apart another stock pump I have here, These bastard little T-30 screws are in bastard tight, and my T30 is either a piece of crap, or these screws are ramped too much, and are very easy to round off the heads. I already drilled one screw out of this pump. [email protected]#[email protected]
Black oxide coated..those look like VT's gears.
.009" is too much,and the material that they're made of has shown serious wear issues in several cases.
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Johnny Langton said:
Black oxide coated..those look like VT's gears.
.009" is too much,and the material that they're made of has shown serious wear issues in several cases.
JL
Good to know...glad I tripped over this thread. :D
 

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Yeah, once I donate enough plasma, I will start a new thread showing the triangle stuff, and installation, and I'll link back go this thread, Thanks to JL for all of his R&D in this area, I know for a fact the last SB I had didn't build oil pressure properly because of oil pump clearance, and they were FORD SVO pump gears (entire pump was an HO pump. The pump would prime, but after the oil warmed up(engine got to normal operating temp) the oil thinned out a bit, and oil pressure dropped to almost nothing.
 
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