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Well, If everything goes as planned, I'll be getting a set of ssautochrome headers (jba's). I know about the craking and all, but I was wondering witch tube(s) are the ones that crack. I remeber someone posted a while back that they were going to have some extra weld put in where they crack. I was thinking of doing that too. I'd rather have the Kooks, but I can get these ones for about $100. Any help is appreciated.
 

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Did you do anything to them? Were they hard to put on? That's great yours are goin good.
 

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I installed them while doing an engine swap, so it was easy. I didn't make any changes to them, but I didn't use the mounting hardware (bolts) that came with them. They are too short and you will strip the threads in the head if you try to use them. I used the stock studs and nuts from the old exhaust manifolds.
 

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Do you think having headers will make it sound any different?
 

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Hard to say. I installed duals with x-pipe, and removed the CATs so any sound changes due to the headers would be hard to isolate.
 

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Do you think having headers will make it sound any different?
I'm going to say no for two reasons. These shorty headers are basically glorified factory exhaust manifolds at best. Number two is that if your configuration is stock than you have 3 cats and 2 mufflers to muffle the sound.
 

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I'm going to have to go ahead and disagree with that. I have the ssauto chrome headers on my cat, stock 3 cats then a flowmaster cat back. There is a noticable difference in the volume that comes from the engine bay area, not from the rear. It is a little louder, but nothing too loud. Sometimes there sounds like an exhaust leak, but its not...I'm not sure what it is. It was discussed b/f somewhere.

As for difficulty installing them, giver yourself about 2 days on and off to get them in. They were a PITA on my car. Just have a bit of paitience and it will be fine.

Joe
 

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Tube headers/manifolds can be noisier. Valve noise and all can resonate more in the thin tubing. Clatter and all that stuff.
 

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RichardM said:
Tube headers/manifolds can be noisier. Valve noise and all can resonate more in the thin tubing. Clatter and all that stuff.
Tell me about it. I hate the interior noise I get with my headers.....I'm almost considering putting the stock manifolds back on because of it :mad:

97Tibirdman, this is what I welded to mine:





 

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Those headers look like they should be strong, Aaron. Have you already installed them?
 

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Thanks, Aaron K. Did you just get them welded on that one side?
 

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I added a total of 3 pieces of metal to only the passenger side header since its the problem header. I added a piece to each side of the flange and one towards the end of the collector.
 

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The headers make it noisier, but you mostly hear the intake when you're driving. At least I do. I think it sounds good, not annoying or loud or anything. Sounds nice.
 

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I had to pieces of metal welded on mine today, a piece in the middle of the flange and one on the collecter pretty much like Aaron K, so they probably won't crack now. Can't wait to get them on! Do you guys think i'll see much of a gain if i have these headers, dual 2.5' pipe, and a magnaflow dual in dual out muffler in the center of the car (where the 3rd cat used to be)?
 

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What type of welder did you guys use? How thick is the metal that the headers are made from. I have a friend who is pretty good with a welder, but he was unsure about how hard it would be to weld on those headers.
 

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The guy that did it for me used a wire feed welder, and I think that would be the best thing to use
 

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4 years after documenting the cracks and people are still wasting money on these headers? Not only that but no fix, just keep pumping the same crap out the door as long as people are stupid enough to keep buying them. They are total garbage. Not only do they crack, they don't make any power either.
 

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well, for $100 their worth a try, and don't call me stupid, how I spend my ****in money is my own business, ok. Maybe I don't have 700 frickin dollars to spend on headers.
 
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