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Any info on the bosch filters or mobil 1 filters?
 

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So the Bosch and Mobil1 filters seem to be just as good as the Motorcraft one. The only worry of course being the possibility of not having a proper anti-drainback valve?
 

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A few things off the top of my head


The M1 has combined mixture of synthetic micro fibers and natural fibers.

The Bosch has blend of natural and synthetic materials for its media. The MC has plain ole cellulose paper.

The M1 has 55 pleats ,Bosh 63 to MC's 50 so the M1 & Bosh have more media area to filter the oil.

The ADBV is pretty much the same on them heat resistance silicone.

Canisters are thicker as well on th M1 & Bosh.

The MC has the internal PRV.
 

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NAPA Platinum 41372

NAPA has a sale this month $5.00 off a NAPA/WIX Platinum filter. Had two delivered for $14.50. This is a clone to a WIX XP filter . Will be using one on the 96 this summer .

Also NAPA Silvers on the 95 & Taunus now will have them cut and inspected soon.
And will be looking into filter info for the 3.8 , 5.0 per suggestion .

Specs as follows :
Wix XP Oil Filter Laboratory Test Performance per ISO-4548-12: 32 grams dirt* - up to 100% more than Wix - 99% efficient at 35 microns** (Based on *51515XP - **51356XP, 57060XP)



Gasket Inside Diameter (In): 2.462 Inch

Top Inside Diameter (In): Closed

Burst Pressure (psi): 275 psi

Bypass Valve Included: Yes

Bypass Valve Pressure (psi): 23 psi

Flow Rate (gpm): 11 To 13 gpm

Gasket Outside Diameter (In): 2.834 Inch

Gasket Thickness (In): 0.200 Inch

Media:Glass enhanced/Wire backed paper

Micron Rating: 23 Micron


 

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Champ/STP S2

And here is a very cheap filter. Paper & nylon . $2.85.

Product Details

Part Number: S2
Weight: 0.7 lbs
Anti-Drain Back Valve: Yes
By-pass Valve: Yes
Filter Height (in): 3.2
Filter Outside Diameter (in): 3.59
Filter Style: Spin-on Canister
Filter Thread Size: M22 x 1.5 Special Thd.
Filtering Material: Advanced Micro Pore Technology Filter Media
Gasket Material: Rubber
Non-slip Grip: No
Removal Nut: No








 

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MotorCraft FL-400S

Specifications:

Thread Inside Diameter (in.): 3/4"-16
Outside Diameter Top (in.): 2.98"
Outside Diameter Bottom (in.): 2.98"
Seal Outside Diameter (in.): 2.75"
Seal Inside Diameter (in.): 2.40"
Height (in.): 4.14"
Length (in.): 4.14"
Spin-On Filter: Yes
Anti-drainback Valve: YES
Bypass Valve: YES
Color: White
Burst Pressure (PSI): 250 psi
Pressure Relief Valve: YES
PSI Relief: 20 PSI
Micron Rating: 80%@20um
Filter Media: Cellulose phenolic resin
Pleats: 56
 

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Darren,

Keep it up! You're a beast cutting up these filters! :thumbsup:

It's good to see what you're actually buying when they're opened up.

Joe
 

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MotorCraft IPRV disassembled

Thank you bud :zbeer:

This was the end cap off the 400S , Fell off in my hand, notice the small black spot on the inside of the cap this was the only glue holding it on.

Here is a MC IPRV took apart .

 

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Motorcraft FL-400S ... I was a little disappointed when they switched to the "New size, same performance" case design. Although it does make it a little easier to change on the Super Coupe.
 

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My Contour needs a filter relocation worse than the MN12's, lol.

It's a 400.

Thanks for cutting one up, Darren! :D


So; the filter medium was only held on that end by that one drop of glue, not embedded like the 820S? :eek:

Rekon that's a fluke, or that's the way it's made all the time?

The other end looked glued in the same as the 820... :confused:

I really hope that one just got missed by QC, and not several thousand, after the glue ran out! (No LOL, lol. :) )
 

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Many are having issues with the end caps not adhering to the media as it should.

As one can tell there glue covers the pleat ends very well and the pressure of the end caps keeps them in place . It does get brittle as can be seen in the edges in the pic.

Purolator makes them and they are having issues of there own.

Most welcome .




 

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Man, you are an oil filter dissecting machine!:)

Those Wix filters just keep looking better, and better.
 

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AH!

I've seen that before, lol.

That's what happens if you don't wash the metal after the lube for the stamping press is applied. (If you don't lube the metal, it tears.)

It acts just like mold release, lol.

Usually you run it thru a bath that cleans and etches a bit into the metal...

Someone should be fired for that; but it probably saved them 0.00001 cent apiece. :rolleyes:
 

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Man, you are an oil filter dissecting machine!:)

Those Wix filters just keep looking better, and better.
Yes, Rush, I do enjoy tearing them apart and getting all the information behind them.

I got that from my grandfather and it is something I've been doing since I was a teenager. Yes Wix are built very well.

AH!

I've seen that before, lol.

That's what happens if you don't wash the metal after the lube for the stamping press is applied. (If you don't lube the metal, it tears.)

It acts just like mold release, lol.

Usually you run it thru a bath that cleans and etches a bit into the metal...

Someone should be fired for that; but it probably saved them 0.00001 cent apiece. :rolleyes:

Thank you for that information. What you said explains a lot.
 

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Royal purple filters? Amsoil reusable? Any input? I've been leaning towards the Amsoil reusable filters but haven't heard much about it.
 

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Amsoil makes a reusable oil filter? Not sure how I feel about that. lol

Now, supposedly, you can go up to 25,000 miles on an Amsoil oil filter. At least that's what it says on the box of one I have sitting in my garage. Is there any truth to this or is it marketing hype and ill-advised?
 

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My apologies I seem to recall a reusable one issued by amsoil I guess I was mistaken. What about this whole filter bypass deal?
 

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Royal purple filters? Amsoil reusable? Any input? I've been leaning towards the Amsoil reusable filters but haven't heard much about it.
RP , Amsoil is two of the best at filtration , K&N made or still does the SS OF.

Amsoil makes a reusable oil filter? Not sure how I feel about that. lol

Now, supposedly, you can go up to 25,000 miles on an Amsoil oil filter. At least that's what it says on the box of one I have sitting in my garage. Is there any truth to this or is it marketing hype and ill-advised?
Its very possible , One reason that they are higher than the average is because of the extra filtration that one can feel safe at using for long OCI .
 

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What about this whole filter bypass deal?
Should the filter element ever become so clogged with contaminates that oil cannot pass through, the bypass valve allows oil to bypass the filter element and go straight into the engine.

The thinking behind this is that dirty oil is better than oil starvation, and/or cavitation.
 
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