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I need some second opinions.

Late this spring I managed to have an undesirable encounter with a steel pipe protruding out from the ground, which left a nasty impression on the car. The rocker panel is toast and so is the fender and door. There is also a very slight inward bend to the bottom of the inside door frame where it mates to the rocker up front, but it looks very minor and I feel that would be no issue to have fixed. From what I can see that is the extent of the damage; there isn't anything I can see from under the car looking towards the edge.

I am going to have the car at a body shop this winter to have some work done, which includes both rocker panels, the passenger fender, filling minor dents and surface imperfections and a complete repaint. I already have a good replacement door for the passenger side that I will put on before I take it in for the work.

I will be paying for all the work out of pocket, I've got about 3k to work with for the work.

Here are some pictures of the damage. What I'm asking for is mainly if it looks like I'm safe in assuming the damage is mostly confined to the rocker panel and door, and if my budget seems adequate for the amount of work I'm looking to have done.






 

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Looks like the inner rocker has a little rust going there. You're probably not going to know how bad that rust is until the shop actually gets in there.

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You are better off using that $3k to purchase a nice low milage, rust-free car out of the south. Transfer over they good parts and part out the rest of your current ride to make some of your money back. No amount of body work will get the rust out of that car and you will still be be left with a questionable structure as a result of that hit. That's my two cents.

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There are two birds in a local lot here; I haven't looked at them, because I have nowhere else to park a car, lol. (And my last purchase is still broken...) :facepalm:

There's a black one and a white one; looks like fanblades on both.

I can drop by and get you vins for a carfax if you want; you're a good dude. :)
 

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Rust damage excluded your looking at about $400-$1000 in damage.
 

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Looks like the inner rocker has a little rust going there. You're probably not going to know how bad that rust is until the shop actually gets in there.

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I'd have to agree. Other than the cancer I think the car is in great shape and is worth spending the cash on to fix.

You are better off using that $3k to purchase a nice low mileage, rust-free car out of the south. Transfer over they good parts and part out the rest of your current ride to make some of your money back. No amount of body work will get the rust out of that car and you will still be be left with a questionable structure as a result of that hit. That's my two cents.

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Personally, I don't think that hit is as bad as it appears. Replacing the rockers is a must and something that would have to have been done regardless. You'll be glad you did. I think there are many years left in that car.

Rust damage excluded your looking at about $400-$1000 in damage.
Agreed.

I was going to get mine painted and touched up this year and then one of our AC units on the house took a crap. So paint is on the back burner until next year. I think it's very much worth your while to invest the money in the body work to keep the car. A good body shop should be able to make quick work of that damage and the rocker panels.
 

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I'd have to agree. Other than the cancer I think


Agreed.

I was going to get mine painted and touched up this year and then one of our AC units on the house took a crap. So paint is on the back burner until next year. I think it's very much worth your while to invest the money in the body work to keep the car. A good body shop should be able to make quick work of that damage and the rocker panels.
X2 Fix her & keep her B . Nice looking bird there friend :cool:
 

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Lol, thanks guys.

Yeah, I made up my mind a couple years ago that this was going to be the "summer cruise" car that I'd keep as an old geezer. So short of rust eating away the floor pans or shock towers (which shouldn't happen since I've already applied POR-15) or a complete total, this car isn't going anywhere. First car attachments and all that.

I need to get quotes from the shops around here, but I'd say from the sound of things it seems like 3 grand will be enough to address everything. I had already planned on replacing both rockers and having the paint done, so the only real addition is the door ($200, already have one) and fender. The roof paint is faded and peeling pretty bad starting this year, there's practically racing stripes across it now. :rolleyes:

You are better off using that $3k to purchase a nice low milage, rust-free car out of the south. Transfer over they good parts and part out the rest of your current ride to make some of your money back. No amount of body work will get the rust out of that car and you will still be be left with a questionable structure as a result of that hit. That's my two cents.

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Yeah, you're right. If I wasn't emotionally attached to this car (it's a curse, I swear) I would probably already be on that. But, like I mentioned, this being the first car and all that...

There are two birds in a local lot here; I haven't looked at them, because I have nowhere else to park a car, lol. (And my last purchase is still broken...) :facepalm:

There's a black one and a white one; looks like fanblades on both.

I can drop by and get you vins for a carfax if you want; you're a good dude. :)
Thanks Grog, but I'll pass up on the offer. :)
 

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The whole rocker should come off which requires drilling all the spot welds out holding it on (easier said than done FWIW) and the pillar could probably be unbent but I agree with the general tone about finding a suitable replacement.

That's a very structural area with multiple interlocking unibody stampings, the extent of the damage looks like it probably tweaked more than just the outer rocker and pillar

And stop driving it in mud, that's going to accelerate rust in that area like you won't believe.
 

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Very fixable, the shop can assess the rust there and elsewhere. It's in too good a shape to junk or get rid of.
 

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i got full on quotes from 3 nice shops around 4 or 5 years ago. even without the damage you have to get fixed i would say doubling that 3k still would be close if you expect quality work and paint. good luck though.

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For the whole car I've gotten estimates for $1.5k-$4k to paint.
 

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Well, I took the car to a place my dad recommended in Columbia Station that has done restoration work since the late 70s and the owner said he can do all the body work (smooth out minor dents, tackle both rockers and the fender) and give me a factory-quality paint job for between $3000 and $3500. This is more or less what I was expecting to pay, so no complaints from me. I'll be dropping the car off this weekend... then the wait begins! :)
 

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Well, I took the car to a place my dad recommended in Columbia Station that has done restoration work since the late 70s and the owner said he can do all the body work (smooth out minor dents, tackle both rockers and the fender) and give me a factory-quality paint job for between $3000 and $3500. This is more or less what I was expecting to pay, so no complaints from me. I'll be dropping the car off this weekend... then the wait begins! :)
Wow, that's high, but I know when it comes to rust..... Daniela hit a deer with our T-Bird, and I just replaced the hood/fender/headlights/header panel & misc. other stuff. Now it just needs a paint job. There is a little dent in the door that I haven't pulled yet :zdunno: I think I have $130 in parts and my time.

The only downside to MY repairs is that Daniela hardly ever washes the car, uses the "It's needs a paint job anyways" excuse. ***sigh***
 

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To me it's one where I'm okay with spending a little more to take the car to someone (my dad feels is) trustworthy to do good work. He said the paint job alone would be about 2k, which for E9 sounds like it's about average. So 1-1.5k for all the body work... again, around here, that's average. I was prepared to spend that much on a paint job alone.
 

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I'd have to agree. Other than the cancer I think the car is in great shape and is worth spending the cash on to fix.



Personally, I don't think that hit is as bad as it appears. Replacing the rockers is a must and something that would have to have been done regardless. You'll be glad you did. I think there are many years left in that car.



Agreed.

I was going to get mine painted and touched up this year and then one of our AC units on the house took a crap. So paint is on the back burner until next year. I think it's very much worth your while to invest the money in the body work to keep the car. A good body shop should be able to make quick work of that damage and the rocker panels.
The voice of REASON!

Too many guys say "Buy a car from the South!" and send a car to the junk yard. It might cost MORE to have someone swap items in, not to mention the purchase price of the new car. I hate to see cars get dumped due to a little rust that is cosmetic.

For 3-5K, you can get a nicely done paint job and body work. These shops are hurting and complete for business. Shopping around gets you the best deal.
 

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Yessir, E9 it is. I take the car down tomorrow afternoon.
 

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:bawling:

So I "bumped" into someone this afternoon... :zbash::zbash:

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Damage isn't too bad, really... From what I can see it was limited to the bumper cover, hood, and driver side headlight, possibly header panel (although it didn't look damaged). Core support is fine, the hinge looks fine too. Guess that's what I get for choosing to drive the car in urban Cleveland. :mad:

I've already made all the phone calls and the guy who painted it is going to get the insurance job. Still waiting on the adjuster to put a dollar value to it...

Fortunately I've got all the parts handy off the FIL's bird. And to be honest, there were chips and bubbles at the front of the hood anyway, so this is a "cheap" way to get all that fixed. Still kicking myself for letting it happen to begin with, though.
 

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:bawling:

So I "bumped" into someone this afternoon... :zbash::zbash:
That's a shame Brandon.. :(

Unless you have some sort of specialized insurance policy like collectors car insurance..When your car reaches a certain age with high mileage (over 100,000)..

A lot of insurance companies will not be forgiving when it comes to an insurance quote, and if they feel the quote is higher than what the car is worth..

Well..They might just total it..Depends on your insurance and policy..That's not to say you could possibly buy it back though if that ever happened..

Whenever I'm driving my Thunderbird I am a lot more cautious than when I drive my F150..Why because my truck can be easily replaced..My Thunderbird cannot..

Good luck with whatever happens..






Rayo..
 
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