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hey guys, I have ordered 3 Visionik 1000watt max (800rms) mono amps 2ohm stable to run my three alpine type s 12's. Much better than my pyramid 1600 watt 2 channel amps i'm sure............ what do you guys think of visionik amps? the price was right for me, msrp was $249.99 each.............i paid $335.00 for all 3. So did I get a good deal on these brand new amps and will they be good for my alpines?
 

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still can't figure out why you want quantity over quality over your setup? for the money you spend on your 3 type s and the 3 amp you can get away with 2 type r and a single amp which will outperform your current stuff that you are buying. factor in the box size/weight, cable etc it's not efficient in money spend and equipment setup.

visonik is pretty good amp on a budget but it's those kind that you get what you pay for.
 

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Yes, the money you paid for the amps (335 for all three), you got a pretty good consumer deal.
As long as you don't beat on the equipment every hour of every day, you should be fine.
 

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i have a box for 3 12"s............ i'm gonna run 3 12's and 3 amps........ for those that don't understand my concept.........it was a pita getting the box in my trunk......as much effort that i have put into establishing my setup, i'm not turning back now. 2 type r's may be fine for some, me though, i'd rather go w/ what i have mentioned. i've gone w/ 2 sub 1 amp setup before in other vehicles, even in the bird, i like 3 12's better.
 

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Casper said:
still can't figure out why you want quantity over quality over your setup? for the money you spend on your 3 type s and the 3 amp you can get away with 2 type r and a single amp which will outperform your current stuff that you are buying. factor in the box size/weight, cable etc it's not efficient in money spend and equipment setup.

visonik is pretty good amp on a budget but it's those kind that you get what you pay for.
so your saying alpine type s is sh**ty quality??? I've never heard of alpine putting out anything not worth buying. You act like they are pyramid or pyle quality.
 

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so your saying alpine type s is sh**ty quality??? I've never heard of alpine putting out anything not worth buying. You act like they are pyramid or pyle quality.

i didn't mention they are ****ty quality. what i meant is with the 3 sub you are putting 3 amp each, then it may hit let's guess 140db. then let's take another setup like 2 type r and a single big hifonics amp which about cost the same and may also hit 140db. lets say the efficiency of the amp all at 70% for class d. which will have more strain on your electrical sytems? a single 70% effienciency amp or 3 70% effiency amp? still haven't took account into power lost through connection and cable length.
 

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dont get offended mybird_91
Casper is right. but i think you started this thread with a different question

but here are my thoughts:

If you look at type S specs they are 300W RMS for new model and i think old model is 250W RMS. depening on which model of type S's you got : you only need 1 amp... putting more amps wont do anything because subs will get maxxed out and then you will probably blow them.

i had 1000W and 600W run to my 2x type r's. difference is minor...

so in my opinion 3 amps for thouse subs is an overkill

but whatever floats your boat
Im here not to judge but to help!
 

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Having more power than required is never a bad thing. It depends on how you use it.

Example:
A customer buys a set of cheap entry level subs rated for 300 watts per sub and a fairly powerful amp, lets say the soundstream 10000.
He cranks the volume while showing off to a buddy and smokes the coils. Back to the shop to get new ones.

The installer at the shop has the same exact setup as the customer. However, his subs have lasted years without failure.

Why?
Experience. Plain and simple. The experienced person knows what to do and what not to do.

Feeding a voicecoil much more power than what it's rated for is not what causes damage.
If this was the case, I wouldn't be able to do what I do.

Distorting the sub and causing heat are the major factors in killing a subwoofer. With the power produced from those amps, I don't think you'll need to worry about mechanical damage.
 

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I know better than to max out my amps to lower rated subs so that won't be any problem. normally i would only go about 1/2 - 3/4 up depending on how i set up my h.u. controls. for this setup i'll probably go w/ 1/2 way up. just to be safe. I understand the type R's are better than type S's, but thats just more money for something that i'm not even using for competition. It's a dd with a kick a$$ system. not a show car w/ an award winning system.
 

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Features: for visionik 1000 watt mono amp

model: V318XT

class D mono subwoofer car amplifier

1000 watt peak output

800 x 1 RMS @ 2 Ohms

400 x 1 RMS @ 4 ohms

MOSFET power supply and output stage

preamp input and output

fuse rating: 25A x 2

12-13/16"W x 2-1/2"H x 10-5/16"D

50Hz - 250Hz Low Pass Filter

Variable Bass Boost 0-18dB

Subsonic Filter 20 - 50Hz

Fuse Rating: 25A x 2

Variable Bass Boost 0 - 18dB @ 45 Hz
Power/Protection LED
RCA Line Inputs & Outputs
Thermal/Short/Overload Protection Circuitry
Adjustable Input Sensitivity
Full MOSFET Circuitry
Frequency Response: 20Hz - 20kHz
THD <0.05%

not bad for the price........we'll see how it all sounds.
 

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4 ohm per vc .........which means i can wire them at 2ohm or 8ohm........ so these amps will match ohm rating at 2 ohm........... these cheap pyramids wouldn't
 

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you know what you should also try just to see what happence
wire your subs parallel and coils in series to one amp. if im correct that would be 2ohm as well
am i thinking right guys? cuz if im not and its not digital: u gonna blow ur amp and we dont want that :S
and if so compare your setup 3 amps 3 subs vs 1amp and 3 sub
i wonder how much of a difference you will get

also did you by any chance find out of you got 250W or 300W RMS subs?
 

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300rms
 

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amps are very nice....... way more power than those pyramid amps..........it momentarily shut off my stereo the other night w/ the lights on and defrost blower was on. i need to do a big 3 upgrade! 1st I think I'm gonna get another battery for the trunk, then thats next.
 

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each amp is pulling 40 amps continuous if my calculations are correct (rms watts div. by max watts, = .8 (80%) X fuse rating in amp (25x2=50)= 40amps X 3= 120 amps?????? if this is true.........how the he!! does my car stay on??
 

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you have a point........even then......thats way more than rated 4 the alt right..... what is 93 3.8 alt rated at anyways????
 
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