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i'm just have enough funding to get a 02 mountaineer motor from greenleaf with 3k on the odo with $950 shipped to my door. just some question to ask before i get the motor.
i know i need the block casting 1l2e. what else should i ask the representaives to look for before i buy it?
is the mountaineer and explorer motor exactly identical to swap into my 94 lx v8 of they have little stuff that are difference? or i should ask them about the other explorer motor that they have with the same price but with 7k miles on it?
any help will be greatly appreciated because i need to get this swap done before school open at end of august.
i'm already didn't have my car to drive for 3 weeks and hope to get this done as soon as possible.
 

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The motor is exactly the same as an Explorer motor.

Just like the motor in my Cougar is exactly the same as someone else's stock '95 T-Bird, it's just a different brand badge on the vehicle.
 

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Make sure they send the harness on the motor (they should) you will need a few of the plugs to splice onto yours. Also see if they will send the intake tube.
 

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the motor will come complete with the injector and wiring harness(no ecu) and no accessories. i might ask them to include the air condition compressor because mine is not working. i might just drive about 6 hours to there with u-haul to choose and pick the engine up myself. just wonder why i need the intake system? is it because the intake system is 96-97 t-bird style that are sideway instead of mine style from the middle rear? sorry to ask this because i've never seen the engine before. basically what are the main wiring harness that i need? because i thought i will use back all my wiring?
i'm very grateful because many of you help me out with my question.
 

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also wonder if mine original radiator is sufficient enough for the explorer engine or a new radiator is advise?
also the 02 explorer motor with the casting number 1l2e is only come from one source-romeo or also possibble with windsor? any problem if getting windsor stuff to swap into my bay?
 

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Windsors need the engine mounts modified. Since this doesn't I assume it's a Romeo. Your radiator is fine. And yes, you do need the intake tube because the air intake is from the passengers side and not the front.
 

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also will my 94 hood will clear all those stuff?
i'm definitely will get the engine already because i reassemble back my engine and the engine are still smoking like h8ll and the power seems to lose quite a bit now.
most probably on next week i will go and pick the engine up.
 

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Where at Greenleaf did you find an engine with that low mileage for $950 shipped? I am looking to get one soon, and the cheapest I've seen is $1,100, before shipping....
 

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I bought mine for 962.00 with tax. I picked it up in Athens GA though.


Cougar281 said:
Where at Greenleaf did you find an engine with that low mileage for $950 shipped? I am looking to get one soon, and the cheapest I've seen is $1,100, before shipping....
 

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Blown94SC said:
I bought mine for 962.00 with tax. I picked it up in Athens GA though.


Where/when did you find that price? I just did a search on their website, and the cheapest was 1050 in IL... Before shipping... The one in MA I was looking at for 1195 was out of a wreck, with unknown mileage. The second one they had was from a rollover. Again, unknown mileage. I would like to get a lower mileage engine, but don't want to spend $2k on one...
 

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Just so that you guys know.

If you have a 94-95 car, expect on spending about 500-600 bucks in extra parts to make the new motor work.

If you don't want to bastardize parts off your old motor (front cover, etc), you will need to get these parts either from a junkyard or new from ford.

Also when you get the old motor out, you probably won't want to re use the tbird exhaust manifolds, you will want a set of kooks headers.

Lastly you will want a tuned eec for optimal performance, and you will want a 85mm maf minimum for the swap.

While the motor is out, I would put a 190lph or 255lph fuel pump in there.

So, in order to do it "right" for optimal performance, expect to spend at least another thousand bucks on top of your thousand dollar motor.

JH
 

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I have to respectfully disagree that it is not worth using the tbird manifolds....both Aaron and I are running bird manifolds and Aaron just turned 14's last week. You will need a 96 fuel rail and fuel lines, throttle cable and some gaskets but that's about it. All the things you list are nice but hardly necesary I have the stock fuel pump and MAF and I know it works because I commute 100 miles a day with it.
 

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Tim,

You know much more on the subject than I do. I would just like to rephrase my statement.

What I really meant was "if you are going to do headers, the best time to do so is when the motor is out"



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I have to respectfully disagree that it is not worth using the tbird manifolds....both Aaron and I are running bird manifolds and Aaron just turned 14's last week. You will need a 96 fuel rail and fuel lines, throttle cable and some gaskets but that's about it.
 

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that I agree with and if I had the money at the time would have done them :D
I just want to make sure we don't scare people away from what can really be a low budget swap
 

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:)

Yes it is the cheapest deal out there right now for us 94-95 guys.

I didn't want to scare anybody away from it either.

My bud is finishing up one right now, and I can't wait to test out the new found performance of the PI motor.

JH
 

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Also, you don't "need" a chip for the swap. I ran mine with the stock eec with no problem for 3 1/2 months. I have a chip now though because, like Justin said, I want optimal performance :)
 

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i thought th ekooks headers are junk or i'm mistaken?
how much is that? ebay got those chrome style one....
now i'm just running on budget first because today my altenator was short. guess i should recharge the battery before i put it back on. a costly mistake for me.....
can i use the 97-01 ford expedition alternators? on ebay they have the 200amps unit and still cheaper than oem 130amps unit sell here at local store.
 
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