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So I know I can get 18" Speedstars from the Custom Wheel Shop, but the price of 18" tires doesn't appeal to me much. I'm also not interested in doing the hub swap for Mustang wheels, but I found two sets I like on Tire Rack that come with the proper hub spacers and everything. They are 38 offset, and I believe our stock wheels are 39 offset, so they're close enough to work.

The ones I like most are these... http://www.tirerack.com/wheels/WheelCloseUpServlet?target=runWheelSearch&initialPartNumber=4877803138B&wheelMake=Enkei+Performance&wheelModel=VR5&wheelFinish=Black+Painted&showRear=no&autoMake=Ford&autoModel=Thunderbird&autoYear=1997&autoModClar=&filterFinish=Black&filterSize=17&filterBrand=All&filterSpecial=false&filterNew=All&filterWeight=All&sort=Brand
Not too expensive, clean, simple 5 spoke design, and tires aren't too expensive, weight isn't too bad either.

The other option are these:
http://www.tirerack.com/wheels/WheelCloseUpServlet?target=runWheelSearch&initialPartNumber=4807753138B&wheelMake=Enkei+Performance&wheelModel=M52&wheelFinish=Black+Painted&showRear=no&autoMake=Ford&autoModel=Thunderbird&autoYear=1997&autoModClar=&filterFinish=Black&filterSize=17&filterBrand=Enkei+Performance&filterSpecial=false&filterNew=All&filterWeight=All&sort=Brand
Little different style, but I kind of like them.

Car is a red 97 but will soon be black.

Thoughts?
 

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Both look pretty good but the style will be all about preference. It also will depend on the width of the wheels and what size tires you use to determine if there will be any fitment issues.
 

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With an 8" wheel 30mm offsets look so much better than the stock bow legged 38-42mm ones. Personal taste is subjective but I hate non Ford designed wheels on these cars, those just look too generic for me, and black is probably my least favorite contrast with darker metallic reds.
My car is getting dipped black this spring, with plans on a real paintjob later.

I really like the Speedstars, but I don't want an 18" wheel or a Mustang bolt pattern.
 

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Ok, so currently I've got 3.73:1 posi rear, and the tires are 255 50R 16, according to my GPS and the occasional "your speed is" signs by the local PD, my speedometer is accurate. So if I go with a 17" wheel/tire, 255 45 17 will fit on 17x8 or 17x9. Most of the wheels I like (2003 Cobra) are 17x9 with a +26 offset. That should fit OK right?

And if I do that, I have to get mustang front hubs swapped, and cobra rear hubs with my stock rotors re-drilled and get the hub hole enlarged to match the Mustang so the wheels sit properly on the hub. I have to look at the stickied thread again about front rotors.
 

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Front rotors can be mustang rotors as long as you don't have a sport Tbird/ sport brakes. I think a 9" wide rim with a +26 offset will stick out a bit in the front. But I think it will still work. If you buy cobra hubs you won't have to get the hub hole enlarged. You could redrill your current hubs which is what I'm planning to do to save some money.. But then you will need to have the hub holes enlarged or run hub rings. Someone else should confirm this
 

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Front rotors can be mustang rotors as long as you don't have a sport Tbird/ sport brakes. I think a 9" wide rim with a +26 offset will stick out a bit in the front. But I think it will still work. If you buy cobra hubs you won't have to get the hub hole enlarged. You could redrill your current hubs which is what I'm planning to do to save some money.. But then you will need to have the hub holes enlarged or run hub rings. Someone else should confirm this
Swapping the hubs is a lot more money though, adds a lot more expense and work into a wheel change, so I may just stick with the 18x9 speedstars on the Custom Wheel Shop's store and call it good. I found some 255 45R18 wheels which are the same OD to keep my speedometer accurate, are a tire I've used in the past on my Mustang that I like, and would allow me to keep my existing Sport wheels or my SC wheels as spares.
 

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Nah custom wheel shop is expensive 190? per wheel 760 total plus shipping.. easily $1000. Plus 18" wheels are heavier and tires are a little more expensive. The only wheel I would justify spending that much for is the talons which they quit making.
 

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Not much different than SuperCoupe Performance, they are 170.99/wheel for the black speedstars.

If I buy Mustang wheels, they are between $130-180/wheel depending on style. Tires are essentially the same for the ones I want, between $130-150/ even for 18". So if I pay $170/wheel for ones that already fit, I don't have to spend an extra $100 for front hubs, and an extra $300 for rear hubs, plus the shop time to have them pressed in, and the extra time for me to take the knuckles down and get them to the shop for pressing.

So, if I go with the 18" speedstars, I'm at $680+shipping for wheels, 560+shipping for tires. $40 for mount/balance, so $1280.

If I go with the 17x9 Cobra R's, it's $560 for wheels, $560 for tires, $400 for hubs, let's say $100 for shop time, so $1620 all told. Not sure I want to spend an extra $400 just for a more aggressive offset.

Or, if I go with the 5 spokes posted above, they'll sit approxmately the same in the wheel well, give me a few more tire choices, are 17x8 so the tires will wear better than the big wide tires on my 16x7 currently, come with the hub adapters, lug nuts, and they'll even mount/balance the tires for me for free.

I appreciate the thoughts, it's got me thinking. Either way, I'm spending $1000+ on it unless I find some very good used wheels somewhere with no curb rash, so I'll have to weigh it out in my mind quite a bit before I pull the trigger.
 

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Well that was exactly my thought process a couple years ago. Although I think your shipping for tires and wheels are going to at least that $400 you saved by not hub swapping. American muscle also has some cheap prices with free shipping (mustang pattern)

But I found if you keep a look out on craigslist you can find a decent set of wheels for cheap some even with tires on them. Then buy front mustang hubs for $100, front rotors for $50, rear bearings for $60, redrill the rear hubs and rotors for I'm guessing $150ish... So $360 total for hub swap plus new wheels. I bought my bullitts for $250 came with two OK tires but I have to buy new tires this December anyways... So $610 + 2 tires. $250 is cheap for wheels though I would figure more like $4-600 but if they come with tires you can save A LOT.

Just a thought.
 

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That's true that was exactly my thought process a couple years ago. Although I think your shipping for tires and wheels are going to right around that $400 you saved by not hub swapping. American muscle also has some cheap prices with free shipping (mustang pattern)

But I found if you keep a look out on craigslist you can find a decent set of wheels for cheap some even with tires on them. Then buy front mustang hubs for $100, front rotors for $50, rear bearings for $60, redrill the rear hubs and rotors for I'm guessing $150ish... So $360 total for hub swap plus new wheels I bought mine for $250 came with two OK tires and I have to buy new tires this December anyways... So $610 + 2 tires. $250 is cheap for wheels though I would figure more like $4-600 but if they come with tires you can save A LOT.

Just a thought.
If I buy the tires and wheels at Tire Rack, shipping's only $148, not too bad really.

I do watch craigslist a lot, but not many thunderbird bolt pattern wheels nearby. I do keep an eye out though. Yeah, I can find Mustang pattern wheels, but I hate buying used, people up here rub curbs all the time (they don't ever seem to understand the actual width of their cars, or they just don't know how to park I guess). Wheels are a decent investment, and if you take care of them last as long as the car, so I don't mind spending a little.
 

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That reminds me a couple weeks ago I saw two pairs of cobra Rs over on sccoa with tires in our bolt pattern. Might want to check over there and look.

Minor curb rash is very easy to repair if it's confined to the lip.
Like a shop or yourself? I have a little curb rash on my bullitts
 

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That reminds me a couple weeks ago I saw two pairs of cobra Rs over on sccoa with tires in our bolt pattern. Might want to check over there and look.



Like a shop or yourself? I have a little curb rash on my bullitts
Thanks, I'll look.
 

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Mmmmm I gotta look into this.. link?
I went by an article that ironically featured bullitt wheels years ago but since then the interwebz has been littered with other how to's and I can't find it :tongue: You basically use files and smooth the effected area + a few inches past the damaged area and then wetsand with 400 up to 1500, use the rougher grits to add contour to the edges if necessary. Then clearcoat the effected area and blend in the ridges with 1500-2000 grit and polish it smooth.

Also don't get too carried away, minor rash can get 100% smooth but deeper gouges will sometimes leave a few pinhole sized pits when the remaining area is otherwise perfect, best off just stopping there. Once you polish it up and clear it you'll never notice those imperfections.
 

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Hey there...Brad from The Custom Wheel Shop.

First...Our wheels ship free anywhere in the lower48.

Second, 18" wheels are the best option for our cars in my own opinion. Ive ran alot of different sizes in wheels and tires on my cars. The 18's with 245-45-18 rubber worked and fit the best. 17" tires in the correct size are rare as hens teeth and expensive too (245-50-17).

Third...To run the adapter sets to run 5-4.50 is nonsense and a waste of money.

Hope everyone had a nice Thanksgiving and enjoy the upcoming Holidays as well.

Cheers


Brad
 
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