ok doke seeing as the guys here at the local ford dealer can't seemingly read there own da-- books and the parts house guys dont understand anything that doesn't have a big wing and a fart can muffler , and i'm not having any luck any where , can any of you give me the parts no's from ford or wherever for the marauder converter and mark viii flywheel to see if this is a viable alternative price wise to an aftermarket converter ........ thanx ........... dainitt wrong forum .. can one of you mods move it over to the 4r70w forum ... sheeez that's what i get for living with a blonde for the last 28 years , dont know what i'm doing .....................