[supergordo]

So my son wants to step up the green 97 Bird. Last week we dropped off the heads, block, crank, rods and pistons at the machine shop. I was able to get a motor out of a 2004 P71 Crown Vic.
Today a Stage 2 set of PI cams from Modular Head Shop arrived. This should be fun.

 

[Trunk Monkey]

Nice!

 

[Zep5.0]

There's nothing like unboxing a camshaft. So much excitement. Can't wait to see the build progress!

 

[TheCrackedDragon]

Son here! Super happy that my birds finally taking in some more power, and put the finishing buttons on it, finish the ol project car

 

[supergordo]

There's nothing like unboxing a camshaft. So much excitement. Can't wait to see the build progress!

Machine shop should be done in a week. Going to start assembling right away.

 

[supergordo]

 

[Ericv8thunderbird]

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Same specs as mine, ought to sound good!

 

[T6Rocket]

I wonder if you got the motor from our old '04 CVPI. It had 99k on it, and didn't burn a drop of oil. Probably a long shot as we're in NC.

Geico last owned it, and I had some sketchy person leave me a message asking if I had the title. No, I don't have the title, that goes with the car when you "sell" it. I never understood that call. I'm sure they just got it for parts.

Al

 

[supergordo]

Same specs as mine, ought to sound good!

Are you running the same cams? Or just the same specs?

 

[supergordo]

I wonder if you got the motor from our old '04 CVPI. It had 99k on it, and didn't burn a drop of oil. Probably a long shot as we're in NC.

Geico last owned it, and I had some sketchy person leave me a message asking if I had the title. No, I don't have the title, that goes with the car when you "sell" it. I never understood that call. I'm sure they just got it for parts.

Al

Couldn't be. I was given a 2004 Las Vegas Metro Police car. I pulled the engine myself.

 

[Grog6]

Those year engines are the ones with plastic, non-ratcheting tensioners; I'd clean the tbird iron ones,and use them. And get the newer material chain guides. The 2003-2006 guides are famous for disintegrating, and blocking the oil pickup screen.
Looks like a nice upgrade.

 

[supergordo]

Those year engines are the ones with plastic, non-ratcheting tensioners; I'd clean the tbird iron ones,and use them. And get the newer material chain guides. The 2003-2006 guides are famous for disintegrating, and blocking the oil pickup screen.
Looks like a nice upgrade.

Good suggestions! I'll definitely use the Iron tensioners. Which newer chain guides are you talking about?

 

[Grog6]

The ones now available are made of a different material, Ford retired the old ones. I think Nick was the one that brought it up, when I bought an 03 TC engine.

This is the problem that Oxman ran into:

Timing chain / tensioner issue

Just when I thought I had everything dialed in and ready to make a trip to Logan motorsports to put the car on the dyno I start to hear a rattling sound coming from the front of the engine. At first I thought it was the belt tensioner and removed both the SC and serp belt and no change. The...

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More issues:

A thought about tensioners

All credit goes to my father JDR. I'm just posting some insight since he loves these cars but doesn't do the forum thing. My dad has been battling issues with the passenger side chain, tensioner and tensioner arms. He had a chain failure and recently a tensioner failure. Below are some things...

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This one has Pix! :

4.6L Explorer engine timing chain ooops!

Got a local customer with an Explorer who came to the shop with a noise coming from the front cover. As I suspected the timing chain guide on the pass side was broken completely and both movable guides were worn through, right down to the tensioner. Attached is some pics.....

www.explorerforum.com

Thankfully, we don't have cam phasers.

 

[supergordo]

The ones now available are made of a different material, Ford retired the old ones. I think Nick was the one that brought it up, when I bought an 03 TC engine.

This is the problem that Oxman ran into:

Timing chain / tensioner issue

Just when I thought I had everything dialed in and ready to make a trip to Logan motorsports to put the car on the dyno I start to hear a rattling sound coming from the front of the engine. At first I thought it was the belt tensioner and removed both the SC and serp belt and no change. The...

www.tccoa.com

Thanks!

 

[supergordo]

 

[Ericv8thunderbird]

Are you running the same cams? Or just the same specs?

Same cams, Windsor heads, gt500 rocker followers, pac racing springs

 

[supergordo]

Same cams, Windsor heads, gt500 rocker followers, pac racing springs

What's the difference with the GT500 rocker followers?

 

[Grog6]

They restrict the(waste) flow of oil to the inside of the head, and raise the pressure at the cam bearings.
Check mmr and mhs, usually one is considerably cheaper than the other. The gt parts are pricier.
What kind of condition were the lifters in?

 

[supergordo]

They restrict the(waste) flow of oil to the inside of the head, and raise the pressure at the cam bearings.
Check mmr and mhs, usually one is considerably cheaper than the other. The gt parts are pricier.
What kind of condition were the lifters in?

The lifters and rockers we took out look fine, but we're going with new ones anyway.

 

[Grog6]

I went thru 3 sets of dohc lifters, trying to find a good set; I'll be buying new too.