Motorboatin' SOB, Headlight Cleaning Guru
is this possible? if so, im listening.
I don't see how that is possible until your tumbler chamber was REALLY worn or the pin was drilled off previously. Ford tumbler units are designed so that it is NOT possible to push that pin in without the key turned to the ON position. I've drilled out several at work, if there is an easier way, please tell me too! lolI removed mine without having the key in. Just pushed the release switch/button on the bottom of the cylinder.
As long as you can turn the cylinder to the RUN position, you can push the pin in. If you look at a tumbler assembly out of the keyswitch, you can see where the pin is it's cam-shaped. It's high in the LOCK position and low (let's you push the pin in) in the RUN position.I can pull my key out when the ignition is turned on. Can you? Maybe it's related. I'll see if I can get my ignition cylinder without the key in.
Well worn. I've had a few vehicles like that, my 1970 Chevelle for one that got stolen. It was so worn, you could wiggle ANY key in it enough and it would turn over. Tough lesson to learn - I should have changed that keylock a long time ago. :zdunno:If you can remove the key with the ignition cylinder in any position other than LOCK, I'd suspect it to be damaged internally.
Lock Cylinder Non-Functional
The following procedure applies to vehicles in which the ignition switch lock cylinder is inoperative and the ignition switch lock cylinder cannot be rotated due to a lost or broken lock cylinder key, unknown key number, or an ignition switch cap that has been damaged or broken to the extent the key cannot be rotated.
Disconnect battery ground cable. Refer to Section 14-01 .
Remove steering wheel (3600).
Working through the access hole in the lower steering column shroud, use a small pilot punch to center punch the retaining pin and then drill out with a 1/8 inch diameter drill.
Using channel lock pliers or vise grip pliers, twist ignition switch cap or bezel until it separates from ignition switch lock cylinder.
Using a 3/8-inch diameter drill, drill down middle of key slot approximately 44 mm (1.75 inch) until ignition switch lock cylinder breaks loose from breakaway base of ignition switch lock cylinder. Remove lock cylinder and drill shavings from steering column lock cylinder housing.
Remove bearing retainer (3C610), steering column lock housing bearing (3E700), ignition switch lock cylinder and steering column lock gear (3E717). Thoroughly clean all drill shavings and other foreign materials from casting.
Carefully inspect steering column lock cylinder housing for damage from the above operation. If damage is apparent, steering column lock cylinder housing must be replaced.
Replace steering column lock cylinder housing, if damaged.
Install steering column lock housing bearing and bearing retainer as described.
Install trim and electrical parts.
Install new ignition switch lock cylinder as described.
Install steering wheel as described.
Connect battery ground cable.
Check ignition switch lock cylinder operation.
how do you drill out the tumblers? i started to drill the pin out, and its taking forever. i got the column halves removed, and twisted off the ignition cap.Because the pin is hardened steel (and I don't want to damage the steering column drilling it off), a lot of times I just use a 1/4 inch bit and drill out the tumblers themselves until I can turn it to the ON position, push the release pin and remove the tumbler assembly.
I've tried to drill that stupid little pin out, too. It doesn't work very well and I think that's because of one or two (or both) reasons: the pin is hardened steel and the pin just rotates with the drill bit (most likely). I told you the easiest way, it goes faster than you'd think. Use a 3/8" bit, drill right into the keyhole until you've drilled enough of the tumblers away so you can turn the key to "RUN" position, then push that pin in, pull out the tumbler assembly. Slide the new tumbler assembly in and you're done!how do you drill out the tumblers? i started to drill the pin out, and its taking forever. i got the column halves removed, and twisted off the ignition cap.