More or less a conversation topic. What's it take to run with the big three (Mustang, Comaro, Charger) now a days? I know its not all about hp and we all start out in a pretty decisive hole. Anyone gone up against any yet? Most I've seen so far look at my Bird as a "not even bother" car. I know MM will have some good info to chime in with as far as different combinations and what-not. Including weight reductions im sure. Im starting this in the 5.0 section because my 4v is about to rust in half and I've already started to compile parts for an m5r2 swap in a 5.0. Looking forward to hearing alot of good stories and experiences.