X2, Just on principal alone. The very existence of the minivan, SUV and now mutant child of the two, the "Crossover" are based entirely on a CAFE loophole.i hate 4 doors. never ever will you see me own one.
Did I miss the memo on how SUVs and vans miraculously became lighter and more aerodynamic than cars?Mark Phelan:
Both have been replaced by vehicles that serve the same purpose better and more efficiently. Some buyers still miss the old formula, though.
And subsequently the most ugly car ever to roll out of Germany. IIRC after the VW takeover it was announced they'll be dropping it and the Cayenne from the lineup. At least there's some hope.... Even Porsche makes a 4-door car now.
Rare because they were hideous:tongue: The coupes were around from the beginning of the panther platform to the point they were restyled 88. Before that there was always a 2 door full size offered. Town cars were technically never two doors, only the continental(though there was the town car package) was offered as a 2 door in the early 80's, when the Continental got moved to the Fox platform and got superseded by the Town car as the new full size name, the coupe was dropped.I tend to agree with the article because cars are built to sell to the masses. The big coupes tended to be sold to people who wanted a big car that looked "sporty". I remember the 2-door Grand Marquis and Towncars in the late 80's, but they were very rare back then.
I know, it's so messed up. Granted, there are rare occasions when having a SUV is appropriate for some families or people who do need to haul large amounts of what-not.6-passenger cars are gone. Think people get a 9 passenger SUV and only get one or two people in it; three is pushing it.
I just don't get it people want big SUV's but complain about the fuel mileage.
I'm not going to try to go diesel unless I get one cheap. But otherwise I feel ya. My wife is dead against it but once she gets in she will be hooked.I have been looking for a diesel powered 12 or 15 passenger E250/E350.
We rented one for a family vacation with the V10 and with 9 passengers it was way nicer than the mini van we did the previous trip.
I need a truck, but a van that could tow a trailer would work, wife and kids don't want a big honkin van, but they weren't asked.