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well.. detroit got its frist REAL snow of the season. all i gotta say is.. im glad i have 205 tread width on my tires. now only if i had traklok... thatd make it a lot better. the bird took it pretty darn well. i take it nice and slow in the snow, doesnt matter what you drive, you cant go faster than the person in front you, and you have to stop faster than the person in front of you. honestly, i like rwd better in snow than fwd.... ivehad the frontend on a fwd car slid out on ice (and i barely tapped the gas!), and it wasnt fun.... would rather have the rear swinging than that... anyways, the bird is getting put away this week,... its road use is done for the winter. i cant let the body rust out when im almost ready to get it painted... plus i dont want it getting hit by some idiot driver (and there are a lot of them here). -greg
 

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well, unlike you, i had fun today. i did my traditional first day of snow donutmania.......i do it every year! it's not right if i dont! dang, i found me a nice parking lot and whoo hoo, gotta love that rwd. i spun like the gravitron, i was stuck to the door. then i came home, took out my dad's winter beater escort, then went back and did parking brake spinouts. i think my best was a 540, but hey, all's fun in snow and ice!!

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if i come over tomorrow.. we are taking the escort out..... oh, and who cant get enough of minivan burnouts.... heheheheheheheh..... -greg
 

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hell yeah!!! winter beaters!!! get that freshcort sideways baby!!!!! I would definetly own a RWD car before a FWD car in the snow... me and my friends got into a debate about this... everyone seems to think that FWD cars are better in the snow, but i beg to differ.. if you think about it... when you move forward.. all that weight transfers to the back of the car, putting weight on the rear tires.. also, isnt it easier to push than to pull?! I donno, does anyone have any explanation as to why people think FWD handles better in the snow?
 

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I donno, does anyone have any explanation as to why people think FWD handles better in the snow?
simply because they do! it is much easier to keep control. just point where you want to go, and you go there. many times my car has gotten away from me due to the rwd nature. a fwd has the engine weight on the drive wheels, and also the steering witht the drive wheels. fwd might not be as fun, but for safety and handling, fwd rules.

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ohh yea, fwd handles better on snow and ice than rwd anyday, even down here in NC, my old 94 grand am (RIP) could go anywhere in the snow/ice, and I didnt worry to much, never got stuck, and never lost control in it. This dang chicken has issues when it comes to snow/ice. it tries to slide around on me. So when the roads ice up (we dont get snow much, just lots of the slick stuff) I stay home. Not that I mind I like the time off.
 

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TRUE THAT...LOL!

You should see it here...hahaha Snow is comming tomorrow morning a possible 2-4 and well they started playing it up last Saturday! College is dead today for all are out buying their supplies for the big winter blast... :rofl:

-Tim
 

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I'm going to have to spend some "quality parking lot time" this year! I just got my 1st FWD winter car so I'm going to have to RE-learn how to do donuts. (I'm used to driving RWD cars).

My guess is you just do them backwards, Right? :D :D :D

Here's my new beater!

 

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i think fwd cars handle better in slippery conditions because with rwd cars, the rear wheels want to continue pushing the car forward when you turn the steering wheel and not in the direction of the front wheels. with fwd cars, the wheels will be pulling the car in the direction of which you turn the steering wheel. i assume this applies in any type of conditions...it's just more obvious in slippery ones where there isn't a lot of traction
 

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u need more weight in the trunk of the bird to even out , the FWD i havet got stock with yet
i put my bird away for the winter like a month ago and i am drive my sable now
forcfed93 i'll teach u how to spend some "quality parking lot time" put it in R and then turn
the steering wheel to the right or left and accel and u can do 540 360 whatever u want
a SC got hit out here yesterday and he was fishtailing and i gues he couldt keet in undercontrol , and the FWD
u can tell em where u want to go they wont fishtail. i just have to miss my bird till next year
 

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What's this, how you say, snow?
GUN
 

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lol yeah snow snow snow i hate it:mad:
btw here is how my bird looked when i took it out of garage to go to school
2 min of standing on show...ughhhh

it was so dirty and nasty:bawling: next day i took it to car wash cleaned it and put it in garage
and unleashed my BEATER lol my dad gave it to me so my bird can stay in garage of salt and $hiet
this is not exact picture of car but thas exactly how it looks except its burgundy

just in case someone doesn;t know its 86 chrysler 5th avenue and its v8 rwd :uppoint:
 

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just in case someone doesn;t know its 86 chrysler 5th avenue and its v8 rwd :uppoint:
Hey PHATBRD,
Thats a sweet pimp-daddy winter ride. I thought my Park Ave was pimpin' .... I stand corrected!!! :D
 

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Damn you and everyone else that has a garage for their 'Bird and a reliable road worthy winter beater! My 'Bird is left out side to freeze it's ball joints off and have a nice snow blanket. My Bronco isn't exactly highway worthy, but oh well. It gets me where I want to in town and that's all that matters. Here's my 'Bird a few weeks ago after the first real snow here.



Oh well - hopefully next year I'll have a realiable beater so I can store my 'Bird.

-Andy "Melon"
 

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Damn Andy ....... Thats depressing. The first year I had my 93 SC it sat out all winter too. It was a real bi+c# to clean up in the spring!

So far CR has just had a few light dustings of that white crap. Maybe we'll get luck two years in a row!

Last year we only got 14" all winter! I only used 1 gallon of gas in the snow blower all season. We usually get about that much per week from Dec 1st - March 1st
 

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you think that is depressing??!?!?! you should see my car.... well.. its gettign garage duty this week.... im taking it over... -greg
 

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I love my winter beater.

FWD
220hp
5-speed
30mpg
Taurus!?!?!
:D


(all you'll ever see) ;)

FWD is better becuase you have 70% of the vehicle weight on the drivin wheels. You also have 70% of the vehicle weight on the steering wheels. The drawback is that if you don't have traction in the rear (usually under hard braking or too sharp a turn) and the natural reaction to slow down is the WRONG one.
 

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Who said you can't make a FWD fish tail, it is just as easy to throw the rear out with them as it is with a RWD, you just have to know how to do it.

I have a 2000 GTP and I can actually spin 360s better with it than the bird. The GTP is a bad example (lots of HP and Torque), but my old 85 chevy citation with a 2.5 (4 banger auto) could do it to.
 

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It's Comming...

Well everyone has talked this storm up for weeks!!! Oh and if you Northerns want a GOOD laugh. Well they've already posted 2 hours early from school for like 10 county schools in the state, and no snow is here at all lol :D Love the south...



looks like it should be a good one though!

Looking for that 3-8 baby!

-Tim
 
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