[Axlehead]

Well since my wifes SC was having some idling problems I started a pretty big tune up. I have replace the plugs, wires, coil pack, belts, thermostat, and the IAC. I have also flushed and refilled all the fluids except for the supercharger. I am planning on starting that project today or tomorrow. After contacting Ford I found that the fluid is almost 60 bucks for enough to refill the supercharger. I have been hearing that the GM Supercharger Fluid is the same stuff from some of my friends. Is there any truth to that? I only ask because the GM Fluid is only 15 bucks for enough to fill up. I was told by a GM parts guy that it should be compatible as well since both GM and Ford used Eaton Superchargers.

 

[JustinH]

GM stuff is the same thing..

 

[bowez]

GM stuff is not exactly the same.

Ford Fluid is synthetic GM is not.

So saying its the same is like calling Mobil 1 the same as Conventional oil.

 

[FordFanatic]

would it hurt the supercharger or just necessitate changing the fluid more often?

 

[JustinH]

GM stuff is not exactly the same.

Ford Fluid is synthetic GM is not.

So saying its the same is like calling Mobil 1 the same as Conventional oil.

Please back up your claim.

 

[Melon]

I'm with Justin - save the money and get GM fluid.

I've put GM fluid in the last few times I've changed fluid in the supercharger.

-Melon

 

[rbrown]

http://supercoupeperformance.com/partBrowser.aspx?category=18

page 5

 

[dDUBb]

Please back up your claim.

GM Supercharger Oil P/N: 12345982

GM oil contains Fatty acids, c5-10, esters with dipentaery thritol,
Phosphoric acid, phenyl diphenyl ester.

Ford Synthetic Supercharger Fluid P/N: E9SZ-19577-A

Ford fluid contains Butylated Triphenyl Phosphate and PentaeryThriTol Ester.



They contain different compounds, but are both made for Eaton superchargers.
Ford fluid is synthetic and supposed to last as long as the supercharger.
GM fluid is not and should be changed every 30k miles.

People are using both with no problems .. I have GM fluid in my SC.

- Dan

 

[rbrown]

Yeah but which one smells the worse?

 

[BlackThunder]

Turbo Oil

I'm using BP 2380 Turbo Oil in my supercharger. $10.39 a quart. It can be easily found it on the Internet or maybe at an aircraft supply store.

Eddie
'90 5-speed SC
'97 LX sport


BP 2380
The most widely used fleet oil in the world

Description

BP Turbo Oil 2380 is a 5 cSt synthetic lubricant that is approved against US military specification MIL-PRF-23699F-STD, and UK specification DEF STAN 91-101/2 (replaced DERD 2499). This lubricant provides a balanced combination of thermal and oxidation stability, load carrying capacity, lower volatility and has the best low temperature flow characteristics of all 5 cSt turbine oils.

Applications & OEM

Approvals

BP Turbo Oil 2380 is recommended for the lubrication of most aircraft gas turbines and accessories. It is also recommended for the lubrication of aero-derived gas turbines in industrial power generation, offshore and marine applications. BPTO 2380 has been approved by a wide range of engine and accessory manufacturers for their applicable equipment, including: Rolls Royce Ltd, Allison, GE, Pratt & Whitney, Pratt & Whitney Canada, Honeywell, Hamilton Sundstrand, CFMI, IAE, MTU, Solar and Turbomeca, etc.

Features & Benefits

Viscosity: BP Turbo Oil 2380 has the best low temperature viscosity characteristics among all 5 cSt oils.

Cleanliness: Minimum formation of varnish and sludge deposits over long periods of use.

Seal Material Compatibility: Very benign to commonly used seal materials in gas turbines.

Load Carrying Capacity: BP Turbo Oil 2380 is among the best of its class and provides excellent protection to bearings, gears, and other highly loaded lubricated surfaces.

Bulk Stability: Its high degree of oxidation resistance permits a long period of operation without significant increase in viscosity and/or total acidity.

037701$10.39, 24/$198.89

 

[crash00527]

Well since my wifes SC was having some idling problems I started a pretty big tune up. I have replace the plugs, wires, coil pack, belts, thermostat, and the IAC. I have also flushed and refilled all the fluids except for the supercharger. I am planning on starting that project today or tomorrow. After contacting Ford I found that the fluid is almost 60 bucks for enough to refill the supercharger. I have been hearing that the GM Supercharger Fluid is the same stuff from some of my friends. Is there any truth to that? I only ask because the GM Fluid is only 15 bucks for enough to fill up. I was told by a GM parts guy that it should be compatible as well since both GM and Ford used Eaton Superchargers.

$60 BUCKS !!!! someone's on crack!! 8oz of the fluid costs only $25 !!thats all you need for a FULL change! 4oz for a partial change

http://supercoupeperformance.com/partBrowser.aspx?category=18

 

[91 XR7]

I picked up i guess 8 oz's of the GMC stuff for like $12 out the door, (was like $4.75/bottle then add tax, we're taxed to death here )

 

[Axlehead]

Well I bought the fluid and then changed the stuff that was in the supercharger. All I can say is gross. The stuff that came out wasn't even fluid anymore, it practically came out like pudding. I ran a electric syphon on it until it was clean and then put the GM stuff in. The car is a lot happier now. Oh by the way, when I bought the stuff I told the guy at the parts counter the story and he busted up laughing. He ended up selling me both bottles of fluid for the price of one. That was 7.99 plus tax of course. He did stress that ford is synthetic and GM's is not simply meaning that ford's will last longer. But he said either way it is good practice to change the fluid every 20 to 30,000 miles.

 

[BlackbirdSport]

I'm using BP 2380 Turbo Oil in my supercharger. $10.39 a quart.

Online sources? I may give this stuff a shot. If it's recomended for gas turbines, it damn sure aught to be enough for the M90....unless this stuff is the reason the Blackhawk is called the "Crash Hawk".

 

[PCD]

Just use the GM fluid and change it at 20K if you pound the car, 30K if you don't.

Hopefully, my SC met its end in Katrina.

 

[Dusty]

GM fluid smells like fish. I just got 2 bottles (4 oz each) for my Buick. Retail is $11 each which is what I paid. ZZP Performance sells it cheaper along with their own brand that is even cheaper. If Ford is synthetic you should get out as much as you can of the old fluid before putting in non-synthetic.