[4 Cam Bird]

Swap Pictures...THERE REALLY ARE PICTURES NOW!

I said they would be up last thursday, well, I have the pictures, but a combination of laziness and being busy fixing my AC and get some real spring on my car so I didn't bottom out on the new exhaust have kept me from scanning them. By the end of the week I will have them up, I would say most likely tomorrow. The pictures aren't really in order, but you can figure it out.

<b>Click picture for original, full sized view</b>

<a href="http://members.tccoa.com/bradd/engineswap/original/car_wiring.jpg"><img src="http://members.tccoa.com/bradd/engineswap/sm_car_wiring.jpg"></a>

Seen here is the wiring of the harness on the car. The large rubber boot to the right of the split goes into the firewall and the PCM goes on the end. The black box to the left of the split is the main engine connector. This has a brakcet that holds it to the fenderwell, it was left positioned in the factory position.

<a href="http://members.tccoa.com/bradd/engineswap/original/completed_engine.jpg"><img src="http://members.tccoa.com/bradd/engineswap/sm_completed_engine.jpg"></a>

The completed motor as taken by seabass, will hopefully get that dryer tube replaced tomorrow, gonna have a hose made

<a href="http://members.tccoa.com/bradd/engineswap/original/engine_is_in.jpg"><img src="http://members.tccoa.com/bradd/engineswap/sm_engine_is_in.jpg"></a>

The engine is in! The wires by the cowl had not been wrapped yet in case we ran into a problem and had to switch something around. they are wrapped now and tucked in behind.

<a href="http://members.tccoa.com/bradd/engineswap/original/engine_wiring.jpg"><img src="http://members.tccoa.com/bradd/engineswap/sm_engine_wiring.jpg"></a>

Here you see the wiring on the engine. On the Mark the wiring actually connects to the harness on this side of the motor so all these wires were lengthened so they could reach around to the other side of the car. This is the same wire bunch seen by the cowl in the above picture. The connector on the end of the wires mates with the left connector in the top picture.

<a href="http://members.tccoa.com/bradd/engineswap/original/engineless_car.jpg"><img src="http://members.tccoa.com/bradd/engineswap/sm_engineless_car.jpg"></a>

The car with no engine. The bar across the tranny was temporarily placed there to hold it up. That is the new torque converter seen in there, lined up on the shaft and ready to get the flywheel up next to it so it can be bolted together.

<a href="http://members.tccoa.com/bradd/engineswap/original/hanging_motor.jpg"><img src="http://members.tccoa.com/bradd/engineswap/sm_hanging_motor.jpg"></a>

The engine suspended from the ceiling, unless there is an I-Beam in your ceiling, I don't recommend trying this at home.

 

[4 Cam Bird]

was argh!, now all I can say is thanks JT.

more pictures, more information
<b>Click picture for original, full sized view</b>

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Lowering in the motor. The car is raised up on jackstands so the engine cradle could be lowered to aid in getting the engine mountspositioned on to the cradle. Notice the come-a-long hooked to the plug wire bridge over the alternator, this was used to get the engine tilted to the same angle as the tranny.

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The engine is all in there with the new parts. The factory plug wire holders were drilled out to fit the 9mm wires, we weren't quite done with them all here.

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The head with the valve cover removed. This was a PITA with the engine already in the car.

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The radiator was put back in, all the hoses were connected, and we are replenishing all the vital fluids.

<a href="http://members.tccoa.com/bradd/engineswap/original/sunset_bird.jpg"><img src="http://members.tccoa.com/bradd/engineswap/sm_sunset_bird.jpg"></a>

Cool picture I took at Seabass's place during the sunset. Has nothing to do with the swap what so ever.

 

[4 Cam Bird]

Here are the pictures, I am sure being able to see some things will probably bring about more questions, feel free to ask away. A few more pictures, the garage all the magic happened in.

Its equipped, see the heater in the corner hanging from the ceiling, the speaker being the next closer thing, another one is closer out of the picture. The extension cord reel is half of a Weld wheel that broke. The other wheel is a Mopar Rally wheel used as the air hose reel. The door hides the tool room. Another door closer to me out of the picture hides the REAL beasts.

The other wall, the tool that made it all possible is there at the front next to the fire blanket...the air conditioner, the office is on the far wall, next to the tool room. Below the A/C you can see the exhaust fan. One of those electronics service maunals we used is sitting there...the big red book, that is the Thunderbird/Cougar one. Yeah, we made a mess.

The beasts on the other side of the garage, near is a 70 dodge Challenger with a 340 and a HUGE cam, far is a 67 Plymouth Satellite convertible with a 318, it is the current project...sort of on hold.

 

[Fubarian]

how long did it take ya, how much bottom line, what else did ya replace etc? I'm 1/2 assedly considering doin a DOHC swap for my bird sometime later (after I get a new trans)

 

[4 Cam Bird]

Weekend #1 pulled the motor (installation could have began, had to wiat for Torque converter
Weekend #2 put in the new motor
following thursday, had exhaust done
Weekend #3 finished up with the beautification of the motor, tune up (good oil, plugs, wires, etc), J-mod
Weekend #4 finished wiring up the A/C stuff so the fan would run when the A/C is on
Some wiring was done during the weeks by my wiring man.
I was driving it daily before weekend #4 and had it our during weekend #3
Weekend #2 it ran and was driven around the block for a shake down. It could be done in 2 weekends if you have someone that knows the wiring and can do it cleanly, quickly.

Cost analysis is in this section of the forum somewhere, do a search in the 4.6 L section for my posts and you will find it, it is labeled DOHC swap costs or something like that.

 

[mikearias]

1995 Ford thunderbird

I was wondering where did you get the wiring harness from can you please emailp me back and i have a 1995 ford thunderbird Pearl White v8 4
.6L Engine Please email me back A [email protected]

thanks alot Mike Arias

 

[Thomas]

I believe he used the factory tbird wiring harness and spliced some harnesses to fit a few things. At least that is what I have heard. I'm doign this swap soon too, 4.6 DOHC is in my garage.
-Thomas

 

[racecougar]

Actually Brad did it the hard way and used a Mark 8 wiring harness and EEC. The easy way to do it is by using a 4.6L Tbird/Cougar wiring harness and EEC.

-Rod

 

[JustinH]

gotta love noobs bumping posts that are several years old.

 

[RidinOnAir]

that just means they actually used the search button... which everyone up here complains about not using....good job mikearias

 

[Thomas]

yeah whats wrong with bumping a post after searching and finding it? Brad's subscribed to the thread so he'll see it for sure, seems like a good idea to me.
-Thomas

 

[Fdawg03SVT]

yeah whats wrong with bumping a post after searching and finding it? Brad's subscribed to the thread so he'll see it for sure, seems like a good idea to me.
-Thomas

:zwthstpd:

a lot of you guys complain when people dont use the search button. and then when they do and bump up an old thread you complain again. :zdunno:

Frank

 

[Lonnie]

LMFAO

You just can't win........

 

[skidman]

Swap Pictures...THERE REALLY ARE PICTURES NOW!

I said they would be up last thursday, well, I have the pictures, but a combination of laziness and being busy fixing my AC and get some real spring on my car so I didn't bottom out on the new exhaust have kept me from scanning them. By the end of the week I will have them up, I would say most likely tomorrow. The pictures aren't really in order, but you can figure it out.

<b>Click picture for original, full sized view</b>

<a href="http://members.tccoa.com/bradd/engineswap/original/car_wiring.jpg"><img src="http://members.tccoa.com/bradd/engineswap/sm_car_wiring.jpg"></a>

Seen here is the wiring of the harness on the car. The large rubber boot to the right of the split goes into the firewall and the PCM goes on the end. The black box to the left of the split is the main engine connector. This has a brakcet that holds it to the fenderwell, it was left positioned in the factory position.

<a href="http://members.tccoa.com/bradd/engineswap/original/completed_engine.jpg"><img src="http://members.tccoa.com/bradd/engineswap/sm_completed_engine.jpg"></a>

The completed motor as taken by seabass, will hopefully get that dryer tube replaced tomorrow, gonna have a hose made

<a href="http://members.tccoa.com/bradd/engineswap/original/engine_is_in.jpg"><img src="http://members.tccoa.com/bradd/engineswap/sm_engine_is_in.jpg"></a>

The engine is in! The wires by the cowl had not been wrapped yet in case we ran into a problem and had to switch something around. they are wrapped now and tucked in behind.

<a href="http://members.tccoa.com/bradd/engineswap/original/engine_wiring.jpg"><img src="http://members.tccoa.com/bradd/engineswap/sm_engine_wiring.jpg"></a>

Here you see the wiring on the engine. On the Mark the wiring actually connects to the harness on this side of the motor so all these wires were lengthened so they could reach around to the other side of the car. This is the same wire bunch seen by the cowl in the above picture. The connector on the end of the wires mates with the left connector in the top picture.

<a href="http://members.tccoa.com/bradd/engineswap/original/engineless_car.jpg"><img src="http://members.tccoa.com/bradd/engineswap/sm_engineless_car.jpg"></a>

The car with no engine. The bar across the tranny was temporarily placed there to hold it up. That is the new torque converter seen in there, lined up on the shaft and ready to get the flywheel up next to it so it can be bolted together.

<a href="http://members.tccoa.com/bradd/engineswap/original/hanging_motor.jpg"><img src="http://members.tccoa.com/bradd/engineswap/sm_hanging_motor.jpg"></a>

The engine suspended from the ceiling, unless there is an I-Beam in your ceiling, I don't recommend trying this at home.

Hi Four Cam Bird- I'm 20 years behind your posting and have a 96 T-Bird and the 96 Mark 8 Engine and tranny. I'm going to start the engine swap next weekend and using all the knowledge base everyone on TCCoA has provided.
I would like to see the pictures you posted in this thread but there not shown anymore and was wondering if you could be so kind let me see them too. Maybe you could email them.

Thank you
Larry

 

[Grog6]

These pix were several picture hosting sites lifetimes ago...

 

[racecougar]

Brad is on the FB page. You'll likely have better luck reaching him there. Looks like he hasn't been on this site since '18.

Is there anything specific you're looking for a photo of regarding the 4V swap?

 

[skidman]

Hi Race Cougar-
Hoping to see the K-Brace issue with 96 DOHC oil pan clearance, EGR in back of Engine, Exhaust clearance.
I have the header from SC performance for Mark 8, extra wiring harness so I can prep without striping out the one in car.
Trying to gleam information from those who went before me to avoid wasted time.

Brad is on the FB page. You'll likely have better luck reaching him there. Looks like he hasn't been on this site since '18.

Is there anything specific you're looking for a photo of regarding the 4V swap?

What is FB page?
Thank you so much for replying.
Larry

Nevermind on FB question... I get now, I'm not on FB at all.
Thank you

 

[racecougar]

The TCCoA FB page: Facebook Groups

The Mark VIII oil pan doesn't interfere with the K-member. These are the 1.75"/3" Kooks headers as well.

I deleted the EGR system.

 

[skidman]

Oh Race Cougar that is beautiful....... I love it wow! Looks as if its a track set up, no heater or AC. I cant get away from EGR due to emissions in MO.
Thank you for the pix and link.

Thank you

 

[racecougar]

It's very much a street car, and it does have heat. Heck, it hasn't been to a drag strip in seven years now.

One could easily install AC; I've just never been inclined to do so. All I'd have to do is reinstall the compressor and lines that are parked on my shelf.

I'm located in MO as well.