There is a big dimple in the bottom of the 1996- pan and there is a tube about the size of a snorkel that goes down into the dimple on the 1996- filter. That is the pickup that SCTbird1994 is referring to. You can see both and compare here:
got part #'s for the pan and filter?
and maybe a link to the original thread for jmod and parts needed
to do it, please.
if there are upgraded parts for the 96 trans that can be put in wthout
dropping the trans please let me know.
ive read some of the threads here but am looking for the good ones
IRV, PM RobertP about getting a trans shift calibration kit. It is everything you need to do the J-Mod. There are instructions for the process in the Articles page HERE. I priced a new 96+ pan at the dealership a few weeks ago and it was just under $50. I have the PN written down but it is in the car at home.
I always have good used pans laying around here. $15
You will need the deep filter as well, you pan gasket you can reuse as long as you have the OEM one.
I am not a big fan of the drain plugs. It may be just the area I am in ,but they seem to rot near the drilled hole and leak in a year or so. The OEM pan is ok but for the money you can put a deep cast aluminum one on.
Does this pan/filter upgrade also benefit 95's with the 3.8 engine? I am trying to save my trans and for the pretty reasonable cost of $75(?) I will gamble that I am successful if you think the upgrade is worth it to the car. Looks likeI can order one from you dirtydog which seems a better choice than going to the JY. ("Better a dirtydog than a junkyard dog!" There's a slogan for ya Alan.)
I am going to do my first flush and fill on my car and can use a clarification on when to clean and install the pan and new filter. "New" '96 ( will '97 also work?) pan and filter if you say guys recommend it for the 3.8.
Directions I have so far say:
Remove trans line from radiator. Some have said it doesn' t matter which line, others say it does. Top or bottom one?
Run clear tube to 2 qt bottle, start engine, drain two qts, shut off engine. This is to reduce amount of drain coming from pan. Then:
Loosen a couple bolts in a corner of pan let 'er drain. ( I was going to use my plastic (8 qt?) oil catcher.)
Here's where I need clarification. If I button it back up and leave old filter and crap in pan in place during flush the ATF (and trans) will never be truly clean.Yet, if I clean pan and replace filter before flushing won't the filter and pan get dirty from old ATF flowing through it?
The only thorough solution I can come up with is to change filter twice. Clean pan, change filter, flush till clean, leave 'er 2 quarts light again, drop,clean pan, new filter button 'er up finish filling. Take for a short spin, check level again.
$14ea. filter seems cheap insurance if it's best.
When I am doing something for the first time i tend to err on side of caution and perhaps in this case too much so.
Appreciate all suggestions to make it easier, better for me and my 'bird.
Oh just checked NAPA pricing on fllters. '95 $22, '96 $55. Says it has metal gasket. Advanced Auto was $14 on '95, didn't know to ask about ''96.
This sound about right to you? If so, i might have to hold off on '96 pan and gasket as it now comes to about$125, unless you think the 95 is that bad.
The 96 and newer trans pan and filter is the way to go. I buy used pans for about $25 when I need them. You can probably find one locally for about the same price. Find a way to work this into your budget. The deeper pan was developed by ford to cure some of the issues that the earlier 4R70W's had.
You don't need to change the filter twice. Like you stated, you can pump some of the fluid from the tranny lines into a pan, then drain the converter(this is important), followed by draining the pan. After that there really won't be enough old fluid in the system to worry about.
Like DirtyDog stated, you can reuse the pan gasket if you have the OEM one still. I don't like the after market ones (cork, paper, rubber).
If you don't have the Ford gasket you can buy them at the dealer for under $30. $55 is way too much for a tranny filter. I get them for under $10 at my local tranny parts supplier or autozone. Remember, if you go to the newer tranny pan you must use the newer filter.
Semms like D/D says leave Purple in, especially on a 3.8 in conjunction with Mild J Mod of course.
- I personally do NOT reccommend removing Tranny lines from Radiator EVER - between the Bi-metalic corrosion at Rad Line fittings, the PLASTIC Rad end & the Aluminum Rad Core you are just asking for BIG trouble ~! - You DO NOT want to end up like this dude...
- Air to Fluid Cooler install is really not that bad - Lines from Tranny run down Passenger side - With Tubing cutters remove section of Tubing Passenger side front - Flush lines & fit hose Barb adapters to Lines for hoses to new Cooler under Bumper Passenger Side - Just orphan out the remaining Lines that cross under Rad & terminate Driver side Rad.
Hello. I recently bought a 96 Ford Thunderbird with the 4.6L V8. The transmission shifts nice into all gears, but i've noticed when i'm cruising at 60 Mph the RPM's are somewhere between 1900 - 2100 rpm. I'm wondering, is that normal?
I've driven 91 Buick's before with a V6 and at 60 Mph when...
I recently bought a new 98 Mark VIII its got 50k on it, and I've been going through it. The main thing I dont like is my 93 and 94 with 93 ECU were so much faster. I've already tuned it up, put in a 255lph fuel pump, and a K and N air filter. The next thing I want to do is get that nice firm...
I have a 4R70 that I installed a Transgo AODE3 full manual valve body shift kit in. I have a good 1 to 2 shift but no third gear but do have overdrive. I know the direct clutch is required for both OD and 3rd gear. I ran a gauge on the line pressure and on the direct test port. In 3rd gear...
Hi all, looking for some help to see if Im in trouble after a rebuild.
Long story short, put in a new motor and rebuilt 4r70w with extra direct and forward clutches, sonnax forward drum, 300m direct drum. All clutch pack clearance was in spec, final clearance in spec as well.
Drove the car 10...
Working out some kinks in my 66 project. I'm running a 331 stroker with holley sniper efi. Air conditioning w/ 02 4r70w and US shift Quick 4 (FTI 2400 street brawler lockup converter).
Finally got the car together after a few months, and I've got a couple bugs that need addressing. One of them...
A forum community dedicated to Ford Thunderbird, Mercury Cougar and Lincoln Mark owners and enthusiasts. Come join the discussion about performance, modifications, troubleshooting, maintenance, and more!