timing cover

yes i think i was the gueni pig *sp* for that. im using a crown vic front cover for my explorer swap. just make sure the casting numbers are the same as F3AE. remember to re-use ALL your front accesories such as the tensioner, water pump, and your stock crank pulley. the one that will come with the 04 block will have f6ae on it.

so the f6ae one is the same as the 96-97 tbird one?

located 2 95 crown vic front cover near me and have to check it out.

thanks.

well the crank on the 04 block i got said f6ae on the pulley. so re-use your old ones and like i said as long as the casting number on the top left begins w/ f3ae you should be fine

Are the 8 new studs really necessary for the PI swap ?? And do the timing cover gaskets need to be changed, or are they the re-useable type ??

- Dan

I'm not sure about "new studs". I used the ones off my 97 cover. put them in the same locations as the factory did, makes bolting the p/s resevoir bracket, ground wire, and wiring harness to the motor possible. the gaskets are reuseable if they are in good shape, no rips. be extra careful when pulling the timing cover off, the gaskets like to stick were the heads meat the block (rtv was used in assembly). you may or may not have to help the gaskets off.

i got gaskets just for the hell of it and while pulling my front cover off i ripped the gaskets, but i was careless cuz i had a spare set lol

SCTbird1994 said:

Are the 8 new studs really necessary for the PI swap ?? And do the timing cover gaskets need to be changed, or are they the re-useable type ??

- Dan

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a full gasket set from fel pro is 20$. Also, when yo pull the timing cover, draw yourself a placement diagram on a peice of cardboard and put the studs with thier hardware in the appropriate places.

haha yea that set me back an extra 20 minutes. the bolts are different and some are longer/shorter and have extra threading so yes do mark them

Yeah I was going to get the timing cover gaskets from Ford.
Im just not sure about the studs, if they are different sizes for the new heads. I was reading the PI swap article, and it says to get them. My engine is a 1995 with 55k miles on it, so everything should still be pretty fresh, I wasnt planning on replacing the timing chains or anything else while the timing cover was off.

- Dan

SCTbird1994 said:

Yeah I was going to get the timing cover gaskets from Ford.
Im just not sure about the studs, if they are different sizes for the new heads. I was reading the PI swap article, and it says to get them. My engine is a 1995 with 55k miles on it, so everything should still be pretty fresh, I wasnt planning on replacing the timing chains or anything else while the timing cover was off.

- Dan

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you dont need to change the timing cover studs, you do need to keep track of thier locations, though.

the front cover gasket i need to buy is for 94/95 engine not 96/97 one right? or both are the same?

Casper said:

the front cover gasket i need to buy is for 94/95 engine not 96/97 one right? or both are the same?

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get the one for a 94/95 car.

FordPartsHQ said:

Front Cover Gasket F1AZ-6020-A
Front Cover Gasket F1AZ-6020-C
Front Cover Gasket F1AZ-6020-B
Front Seal for in the Front Cover F5AZ-6700-A
Oil Pan Gasket F4AZ-6710-A
Oil Filter Adapter Gasket F6AZ-6840-BA

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all of those gaskets are re-usable but i got them anyways to swap over. i didnt however use the new front cover crank seal since mine looked pretty much new and it was on there pretty tight so you can have it for a couple of bucks + shipping. let me know

thanks for the offer.

have a set bought it long time ago but never use it. it's in the garage somewhere. forgot what year it's from though.

just make sure the part numbers are the same seeing how the 04 cover's gaskets werent the same on my 95 cover

Porkchop said:

just make sure the part numbers are the same seeing how the 04 cover's gaskets werent the same on my 95 cover

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i used fel pros kit for a 94 bird on my 94 timing cover. its got all three sections and the crank seal.

yea anytime im going to do gaskets again im ditching motorcraft and going fel-pro.

anyone want a front crank seal? lol

when it comes to gaskets nothing is worse then puting the engine all back to gether dropping it in gettin her going feeling good about yourself while puttin a few back and then you see the little puddle under the car and you think to yourself i am a freaking idiot 20 bucks worth of gaskets and all that time grrrr do yourself a favor and finish the project the first time use new gaskets

yes im using fresh gaskets even tho 90% of them are re-usable, but yea you dont need to use brand new ones 100% of the time