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Yes, I am looking for recommendations. Sorry for being vague.

Well, it figures the best wearing 17" tire out would be discontinued. It seems like tire companies are making tires burn off quicker, or maybe I'm driving a little harder... hmmm

I'm not tokyo drifting this thing and I thank you for your concern trunk monkey do not worry though, please. They are small controlled slides, off of the public roads. There is a nice abandoned warehouse district by my house with wide open, freshly paved roads and clean fill/grass on either side.
I'm in.:D

To the Tires, Kumho Ecsta 711 --- Never again, had them 2 times
then, Fulda.......... ----- No go, wear out to fast
then, Sumitomo HTR Z II ----- Good Tires, stick like glue here, never had the Sumitomo HTR Z III, but from the look of the Profile cut, I would chose the Suitomo HTR Z II befor the III
then, Nexen N3000 ----- Good and longlasting Tire, just brakes out to fast in tight turns(may be me, lol).
All 235/45/17, I could borrow you the Nexen or the HTR Z II for a test run, still have some threat left on them (Not to burn em up, need them for 2-3 more months).

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I recommend BFG G-Force Sports. 255/50ZR/16 $121 each. 1 out of 10 rating by Tirerack "8"

I had them in 16 and am going to buy them in 17 real soon.

http://www.tirerack.com/tires/TireSearchResults.jsp?width=255/&ratio=50&diameter=16&x=37&y=10
Regarding this very hard to find tire size...

I'm trying to decide between the BF Goodrich g-Force Sport and the Falken Ziex ZE-512

the BFG are 127.77 and the Falkens are 97.00. Are the BFG's worth the extra cost? I'd really like to get a set that lasts! I had the Falkens before and they didn't last as well as I'd hoped, (Yes, I realize that I am a (ahem...) "Spirited" driver..) But if the BFG's wear out just as fast I might as well go with the Falkens. Anyone had any experience with the tires?

Edit: oh, and just for kicks and giggles... Whats the narrowest tire that can safely be mounted on a 16" SC wheel?
 

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Edit: oh, and just for kicks and giggles... Whats the narrowest tire that can safely be mounted on a 16" SC wheel?
I wouldn't go any narrower than a 195 on a 7" wheel.
 

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Regarding this very hard to find tire size...

I'm trying to decide between the BF Goodrich g-Force Sport and the Falken Ziex ZE-512

the BFG are 127.77 and the Falkens are 97.00. Are the BFG's worth the extra cost? I'd really like to get a set that lasts! I had the Falkens before and they didn't last as well as I'd hoped, (Yes, I realize that I am a (ahem...) "Spirited" driver..) But if the BFG's wear out just as fast I might as well go with the Falkens. Anyone had any experience with the tires?

Edit: oh, and just for kicks and giggles... Whats the narrowest tire that can safely be mounted on a 16" SC wheel?
255/50-16 is getting hard to find. I have had 2-3 sets of the Falken ZE-512 in that size. The tread rating on the G-Force is less than the Falkens, so I don't think they will last any longer. The only G-Forces I found in that size were also summer tires.

The 255/50 is a mid 80's Corvette size and is on its way out. The ZE-512 is also an old tire, replaced by the ZE-912 which does not come in 255/50. I went to 235/55-16 as they are the same diameter as 255/50. There are more choices there and it really fits the 7 inch rim better. I would sometimes bottom out with 245/50-16 and the small amount larger diameter of the 255/50 made a difference.
 

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From TireRack.com
The problem with UTQG Treadwear Grades is that they are open to some interpretation on the part of the tire manufacturer because they are assigned after the tire has only experienced a little treadwear as it runs the 7,200 miles. This means that the tire manufacturers need to extrapolate their raw wear data when they are assigning Treadwear Grades, and that their grades can to some extent reflect how conservative or optimistic their marketing department is. Typically, comparing the Treadwear Grades of tire lines within a single brand is somewhat helpful, while attempting to compare the grades between different brands is not as helpful.
So comparing treadwear ratings between the Fusions and the Goodrich tires isn't a good indicator. Then again, the Fuzions may have worn too quickly due to my ignorance. They wore quickly in the centers, and not so quickly on the edges.. I typically run around 36psi on the tires, so this combined with the releatively narrow 7" wheels may have helped accelerate the center wear. I'm leaning toward the Fuzions. They will cost less and other than the wear I just mentioned weren't bad tires. With a little more care on my part I'm sure they could be made to last longer.
 

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Douglas brand tires from Walmart

I've never run the Douglas tires before, but there was already a practically new set on the Lincoln 10-spoke wheels I put on my 'Bird. Here's the lowdown:

Size - P225/60R16

Brand and Model - Douglas Touring

Approximate Price Paid - Free, but retails for around $80 or $90 ea.

Mileage so far on the tires - Total unknown, but I've put about 2000 mi. on them

Dry Traction on a scale of 1-10 - 5

Wet Traction on a scale of 1-10 - Not much experience on wet roads yet

Snow Traction on a scale of 1-10 - Hellooo, Florida! :tongue:

Additional Comments including whether you recommend them or not - These have to be the worst tires I've owned since I ran junkyard tires as a teenager! The ride is much rougher than when I had the fanblade rims (I had Coopers on them). These also have a tendency to "wander" quite a bit. I had them rebalanced when I turned the whitewalls inside and it didn't make much of a difference. The guy at the tire shop even commented that these weren't the "roundest" tires he's ever seen. However, the miser in me just can't come to getting rid of them until they're worn out!

Bottom line: I cannot recommend Douglas tires at all.

As an aside, several years ago I bought a set of Goodyears from Walmart for a Ford Escort. The tires were fine, but the service from the Evil Empire was horrible. They were quick to install the tires (I was in and out in under 45 minutes) but to get them rotated or a flat fixed was always a "2 to 3 hour wait". Even when the service bays were empty! When I asked for a refund of the extra 40 bucks I'd paid for their extended service plan (free flat repairs, rotations, etc.) they said I would only receive 44 cents per tire because that was the cash value of the plan. What a crock! I have never gone back to Walmart's auto service and never will (they usually don't know what they're doing, anyway.)
 

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my tire review

Hi all, :woowoo:


Size:24545zr17
Brand and Model:Kumho esta
Approximate Price:$600'sh
Mileage so far on the tires:20k
Dry Traction on a scale of 4-10
Wet Traction on a scale of 3-10
Snow Traction on a scale of n/a
Additional Comments: Dont think about it!!!, If you like fast and the furious, this is the tire for you, scary!!!

Size:23555zr17
Brand and Model:BF goodrich g-force sports
Approximate Price Paid:$200 on craigslist 95% thread, was able to get insurance for all four tires
Mileage so far on the tires:15000
Dry Traction on a scale of 6-10
Wet Traction on a scale of 3-10
Snow Traction on a scale of 1-10
Additional Comments:Thougth this was a good buy, but a fast and furious contender part 2. horrible?looks great but if you like spinning out and please dont take any curves in the wet, fair warning

Size;24545zr17
Brand and Model:Fire hawks wide oval
Approximate Price Paid:$700'ish new with insurance
Mileage so far on the tires:30k
Dry Traction on a scale of 9-10
Wet Traction on a scale of 9-10
Snow Traction on a scale of n/a
Additional Comments:One of the best tire i have owned, i dont believe they make this specific model, theyve got the indy and some other sort of wide oval but looked at the comparison, it has changed. love this and yes you can truly drive like the fast and the furious in both drive and wet!!!!


Size:23555zr17
Brand and Model: Pirelli pzero nero
Approximate Price Paid$200, bought on craigslist 98%new from a mustang owner, upgrading his wheels to 18's
Mileage so far on the tires:4000, currently on my 96T-bird with the 03 Cobra's
Dry Traction on a scale of 7-10
Wet Traction on a scale of 7-10
Snow Traction on a scale of 7-10
Additional Comments:was a little disappointed, the wide ovals were alot better, not as confidents on wet turns as with the wide ovals and michelins. and they are rated the best in its class?i spin out a lot coming from a complete stop on turns?hmmm?not too impressed.

Size:24545zr18 front;25545zr18 rear
Brand and Model:Michelin pilot A/S plus
Approximate Price Paid:$1,100+with a 70 doll ar rebate
Mileage so far on the tires:NEW, currently on my mark VIII with the Talon612
Dry Traction on a scale of 8-10
Wet Traction on a scale of 9-10
Snow Traction on a scale of 7-10
Additional Comments: got these tires on an 06 XJ8L Jaguar for about six months now and very impressed, specially in the rain. the outer walls are really beafy, i compaired them to the continental tires DWS which are rated very highly but they are out of stock in most area's. but if you look at the side walls, the DWS are build like the pirelli pzero nero, but the A/S are more stockier/beefier so they dont roll as much when your taking turns. compare them.


Overall,
If money is not an issue, go with the Michelin Pilot A/s or the Continental DWS. If your on a bugget, go with the Firehawk wide ovals. If you want to go cheap, dont go with either the Kumho's or the BF's listed above. Happy hunting:idea:

regards,
ramon;)
 

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anyone have experience with the General G-max tires?

looks to me that they get good ratings in wear and traction.

looks like I'll probably be getting the bird wrapped in a set this weekend.
 

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Anyone have experience with the General G-max tires?

Looks to me that they get good ratings in wear and traction.
I bought a set for my Fusion last month, so far I'm pleased with them. They're quiet and give the car a nice ride.

Joe
 

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went ahead and got 'em...

Very impressed so far... good lookin tire, and GRIPPY!


As much as I try I cant get the things loose!

we'll see how they wear...
 

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Michelin PS2 235/50/17
Z rated
10/32 tread depth new
Mounted on TBird SVT rims.
215 bucks new, but I got mine used cheap on Ebay.
These came stock on some Porsches.
These are some grippy tires in the Summer and in rain.
They handle turns quite well too.
 

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Kuhmo Ecsta AST.
245/45/17
cheapcheapcheap. (380 installed from discount tire.)

First thing; old worn out tires were Continental Sporticontacts. Brand new Kuhmo's sound like mud tires compared to the old ones. However I think the continentals were so worn that the shoulder was softer than it should have been...

Rated for 30k miles. So far grip seems good. Only slippage I had was when the mold release compound was still on the tires and it was raining... They look pretty cool too with an agressive tread pattern.
 

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Dunlop Signature II

215/70/R15 T rated.

Price Installed+7% Sales tax in NJ: 455

Purchased at Just Tires in Cherry Hill NJ

Got these on the car as fast as i could due to the tires on it being from 2002. I did the research on these tires before I bought them, they are number 3 in the category of Standard Touring tires on Tire Rack, but they also cost less than the top 2. (this was at the time, Continental recently introduced a new tire that went to #1, knocking the Altimax RT43 down to #2, the Firestone Precision Touring to #3, and The Dunlop down to #4) I went with the dunlop due to wanting a US made tire (the Altimax is made in the Czech Republic or Brazil) and wanting a T Rated tire (the Firestone is made in the USA or Costa Rica, but is only in S Rated).

Onto the tire itself:

Looks: 7/10, decent sidewall look, tread pattern looks somewhat aggressive. Very large MADE IN USA on the side, for those of us who care about stuff like that.

Snow handling: Very VERY grippy in slush/freezing rain with snow already on the ground. Trial by fire on the weekend after i bought the car

Dry Handling: Fairly grippy, will be pushing the limits of it once it warms up, but it doesn't feel like it would be really sloppy, maybe not as grippy as let's say a Cooper CS4 or BF Goodrich Advantage T/A, but at the price point I cannot complain

Noise: fairly quiet, not as quiet as the 2002 Michelin Rainmaster MX4 tires that were on it

Tire Shop Experience: Excellent, no pressure since I bought them online and they got me in several hours early and got me out quick.
 

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Size: 225-55-16
Brand and model: Hankook Ventus S1 Noble 2
Approximate Price Paid: $476 installed
Mileage so far on the tires: 200
Dry Traction on a scale of 1-10: 9
Wet Traction on a scale of 1-10: 9
Snow Traction on a scale of 1-10: 7
Additional Comments including whether you recommend them or not.:

Awesome tires for the money. My setup is difficult as hell in the snow and without being dedicated snow/winter tires, they do very well. I have not had a chance to push them hard in the corners yet, but I have been able to test them out in the snow since we have about 1-2 inches on the ground right now.
 

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These are the tires I've run on my '97 the last 10 years:

Size: 255/45-17 front / 285/40-17 rear
Brand and model: Nitto NT555 Extreme ZR
Approximate Price Paid: $789 installed
Mileage so far on the tires: roughly 15,000
Dry Traction on a scale of 1-10: 8
Wet Traction on a scale of 1-10: 8
Snow Traction on a scale of 1-10: N/A
Additional Comments including whether you recommend them or not.: I do recommend these tires. They look very agressive, ride and handle well, are surprisingly quiet, and cope reasonably well with the torque of my big bore. There is a lot of tread left, but I will replace them this year due to their age. Will probably stick with NT555s, although I am thinking about changing to 18" wheels.
 

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The tire I use is the cooper zeon rs3a. 245/45/18 94w. This tire is not for the winter but a great handling and trac tire in the summer. They are a little expensive. They were $650 with mounting and balancing.
 

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Just put on a set of these Coopers http://us.coopertire.com/customer-c...make=Ford&model=Thunderbird &option= LX&tab=0

In the 11 years I've been driving my birds, never have I had tires with so many features at such a great price. The traction and handling are just fantastic, they are quiet, and they look great. I paid $400.00 out the door, mounted and balanced - free rotation and flat repair, too.



Features & Benefits

Benefits

New generation coupled silica compound provides exceptional all-season performance, improves braking and lowers rolling resistance.
3D Micro-Gauge™ grooves allow the tread elements of the tire to interlock and stabilizes the tread.
Asymmetrical tread pattern reduces irregular wear by allowing tires to be rotated from one side of the car to the other.

Performance Features

Here's how this tire performs in everyday driving.

DRY TRACTION 8.5, WET TRACTION 9.5 TREADWEAR10 QUIET10 HANDLING8.5 WINTER TRACTION7.5
 

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Continental control contact tour a/s economy plus.
Size 225/60/16
Out the door cost was 861$
Really smoothed the ride and increased handling capabilities quite a bit.
Dry traction 9
Wet traction 8.5 (haven't ever lost traction even pushing my luck a lil bit.
Stopping distance was decreased by nearly half. Also it makes or a pretty quite ride even at high speeds. You'll hear the wind on the car before the road noise. I'd recommend to anyone plus you can't go wrong with 90k warranty :p
Driven by a 97 anniversary cougarr.
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