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I read the tire rating thread and it seems that it's either Kumho's or BFG's. I guess a DR is out for everyday driving including agressive handling through curves and country roads with bumps and such. So what tire is the one to get? I am using Sumitomo's now and the tire Rack says they are a very good tire for traction and honestly I can just floor my '99 Mustang GT off idle and go without a lot of spin. 60' times are 2.15-2.25 but the lower is from lack of power and the 2.25 is from too much power(race tune) and spin. I am planning on Alan's 10" 3800rpm stall converter also. Help!? Mark...THANKS!
 

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Well you say you are driving this daily, I know NY gets snow, are you planning on using a 3800 stall TC in the snow?
If this is summer/good weather driving, then buy some nice tires for up front, and put the wider Kumho's in the back. The kumho's are cheap enough where you can beat on them for the summer, and when the car goes away for the winter, you can purchase new tires if NEEDED in the spring.
I don't really rotate my tires from front to rear anymore. The front tires will last a lot longer, while I can beat on the rear ones, not having to worry about replacing all four.
But, then again...you gotta have the money to go fast, I don't know what your financial situation is, but that 3800 stall TC will want some grip, I would try to buy some spare rims and put DR's on them for the track. BUT, like I said, I don't have enough information/or the knowledge of what your plans are.
People who have the BFG's will say BFG, people with the Kumho's will say Kumho. Langton loves the KH11, Obucna loves the BFG, both trustworthy people, I don't see how you can make a bad decision.
 

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Well you say you are driving this daily, I know NY gets snow, are you planning on using a 3800 stall TC in the snow?
If this is summer/good weather driving, then buy some nice tires for up front, and put the wider Kumho's in the back. The kumho's are cheap enough where you can beat on them for the summer, and when the car goes away for the winter, you can purchase new tires if NEEDED in the spring.
I don't really rotate my tires from front to rear anymore. The front tires will last a lot longer, while I can beat on the rear ones, not having to worry about replacing all four.
But, then again...you gotta have the money to go fast, I don't know what your financial situation is, but that 3800 stall TC will want some grip, I would try to buy some spare rims and put DR's on them for the track. BUT, like I said, I don't have enough information/or the knowledge of what your plans are.
People who have the BFG's will say BFG, people with the Kumho's will say Kumho. Langton loves the KH11, Obucna loves the BFG, both trustworthy people, I don't see how you can make a bad decision.
Ha ha! No snow! I would not make it up my driveway with a 5* incline and an inch of snow. The car is stored in the garage. It has silver centered Bullitts, 17"x9"/10.5" with new(last August?) Sumitomo's, 275/40-17's and 315/35-17's. At first I was thinking but I believe it was JL who talkd me out of that along with mixed feedback. NITTO's are the longest lasting but need a 8 sec. burn to hook. Wouldn't look/sound too well at an intersection on a strip of bypass road I know of! The BFG DR's don't look like DR's having full thread across the entire face of the tire. The "old" BFG DR's looked more the part but don't come wide enough. So back to streets and did you trying to say JL likes KUMHO? Also BFG makes so many models what one does Mr. Obucna like? The Tire rack said to just stay with the Sumitomo's which right now can have the hammer dropped and they will spin but not lose grip totally unless I launch with some revs(brake torque type launch).
Then am I better with a smaller diameter wheel to get a tire with more sidewall? Man I hate trying to sell used wheels/tires even when like new. With the Mustang I could go wider out back with a wider wheel. The car will be mostly street. I just want something to get 60' times under 2.0, maybe even a 1.8? Thanks, hope the additional info helps. mark
 

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BFG g-force Sport.
I read your other post...you say the nittos need a 10 second burnout to hook?
Says who? Have you used them?
My buddy runs Cooper Zeons on his 96 Cobra, runs 13.88 in the Zeons.
He ran a 13.7 in the Cooper Cobra, 275/40/17 in the rear.
That's a stock a$$ cobra, oh, underdrive pullies if those count.
I don't know who told you they need a 10 second burnout, but if you believe that, I hope you have seen it with your own eyes, because you should just rule those out then.

A lot of it has to do with the driver, he ran a 13.7 in a stock cobra with street tires.
I had trouble getting my car to hook because I had no experience the first time I went to the track, it's more about experience.

Also, you shouldn't need to go WOT from a stop light, that's just asking for a ticket/causing accidents.

He can safely drive his Cobra in the rain with either tire.

P.S. His 13.88 with the Zeons was with no burnout, because he had bought the tires the day before, didn't feel like tearing them up yet.

Hope this helps, just to give you an idea from personal experiences.
 

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BFG g-force Sport.
I read your other post...you say the nittos need a 10 second burnout to hook?
Says who? Have you used them?
My buddy runs Cooper Zeons on his 96 Cobra, runs 13.88 in the Zeons.
He ran a 13.7 in the Cooper Cobra, 275/40/17 in the rear.
That's a stock a$$ cobra, oh, underdrive pullies if those count.
I don't know who told you they need a 10 second burnout, but if you believe that, I hope you have seen it with your own eyes, because you should just rule those out then.

A lot of it has to do with the driver, he ran a 13.7 in a stock cobra with street tires.
I had trouble getting my car to hook because I had no experience the first time I went to the track, it's more about experience.

Also, you shouldn't need to go WOT from a stop light, that's just asking for a ticket/causing accidents.

He can safely drive his Cobra in the rain with either tire.

P.S. His 13.88 with the Zeons was with no burnout, because he had bought the tires the day before, didn't feel like tearing them up yet.

Hope this helps, just to give you an idea from personal experiences.
Some tech guy at NITTO and a couple of guys I have known a while. Nitto even had a 2 page ad in the January issue of MM&FF with NITTO DR's on the front? Not going to do many burns at streetlights but was exaggerating the issue of heating the tire to that hook when/if needed. I don't even like doing a burn in the sticks, getting old, mature.
Actually my Sumitomos will hook without losing their grip totally if I just hit the pedal right from idle so I may just see what happens with the converter. I have an automatic so not much finesse there. Just need to ask Alan how he prefers to launch his converter for best results. Sure you helped. Everyone does, that's what a forum is for: A place to assemble as in a court! So let's hear all sides! Mark
 
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