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I saw that in the paper this morning. It's a red-eye from San Diego to Philly or something like that...

No great loss. I RARELY fly USAir/American because they're so damn expensive. Their flights are always out of policy for me. I'm a DELTA guy.
 

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Airline travel has been taken for granted these days because just about everyone alive was born AFTER air travel was mainstream. A good documentary film that tries to put it back into some type of perspective that I watched a while ago was "Living in the Age of Airplanes"...
 

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Airline travel has been taken for granted these days because just about everyone alive was born AFTER air travel was mainstream. A good documentary film that tries to put it back into some type of perspective that I watched a while ago was "Living in the Age of Airplanes"...
That's some Pilot perspective right there :tongue: These days passengers are jammed into the things like sardines, and the quality people your jammed in with are are about on the same level as the ones traditionally riding Greyhound. It's a filthy, uncomfortable and miserably invasive experience that you'd be lucky not to have the flu from a few days after leaving the gate. I'm eagerly awaiting the advent matter transporters that won't accidentally gene splice me into a fly(although still a small price to pay comparatively)lol
 

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I think a lot of it really came about after the federal deregulation of the airlines in 1978. After that, the airlines controlled the pricing on the routes and were free to wage their capitalistic war on prices. That is what ultimately, I believe, led to all these big airline mergers and "more efficient" flights with more paying passengers/less empty seats, regional flights, etc... 9/11 really accelerated that too. It's a catch 22. Everyone wants cheaper fares, but the problem with cheaper fares is... well, you get what you pay for.

Flying on airlines post-WWII and in the early jet age was a lot less unpleasant, but it was also a lot more expensive and the safety we have today just wasn't there. An example being, perhaps a trip to Rome from Chicago being about $450 in 1970 dollars which equals about $2500 today. That's about three times what you'd expect to pay for that fare on today's airlines. "One shot" trip life insurance was common then; go and get $150,000 worth of life insurance for the flight for a couple bucks, just in case.
 

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I think a lot of it really came about after the federal deregulation of the airlines in 1978. After that, the airlines controlled the pricing on the routes and were free to wage their capitalistic war on prices. That is what ultimately, I believe, led to all these big airline mergers and "more efficient" flights with more paying passengers/less empty seats, regional flights, etc... 9/11 really accelerated that too. It's a catch 22. Everyone wants cheaper fares, but the problem with cheaper fares is... well, you get what you pay for.

Flying on airlines post-WWII and in the early jet age was a lot less unpleasant, but it was also a lot more expensive and the safety we have today just wasn't there. An example being, perhaps a trip to Rome from Chicago being about $450 in 1970 dollars which equals about $2500 today. That's about three times what you'd expect to pay for that fare on today's airlines. "One shot" trip life insurance was common then; go and get $150,000 worth of life insurance for the flight for a couple bucks, just in case.

Your math is close, I looked it up, although I wouldn't say that it was a lot more expensive in 1970 dollars. If anything the price - adjusted for inflation - has stayed the same. The price of $2,500 isn't about 3 times what you'd expect to pay, it's exactly what you'd expect to pay!

With a 90 day lead time the coach fair - Chicago (ODR) to Rome (FCO) for DEC 16 on DELTA as priced at their website is indeed about $2,700 to $2,950 - ONE Way!

For comparison, using my corporate travel agency to run a search for a round-trip ORD to FCO departure on DEC16 returning on JAN4/5 yields a fare range of $1,180 on Turkish Airways all the way to $4,500 on Polish Airways with the average price being $2,230 on Brussels Airlines.

Otherwise I couldn't agree with you and Matt more. Yes, flights are safer and more crowded than ever. As far as "cheaper fares" the problem is that base fares are relatively low ... that is before you add on taxes, the 911 TSA fees, baggage fees, "choice seat" upgrade fees, the TSA pre-check/Global Entry registration fee, etc.

The airlines have simply un-bundled what used to be included in the cost of a flight in order to make flights base fare appear less expensive. And yes, in my experience, barring an upgrade to1st Class, service is minimal at best.
 

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Yea, flight prices are all over the place. It may have something to do with the dates that I chose (closer to Christmas). I went with DEC 16 to give 90 days lead time on the flight from today.

Good to know though; If I'm ever looking to book a flight on my own I'll use Google Flights. Those are good prices.
 

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Side note, never allow a wife or girlfriend to go through a backscatter xray device in the TSA line. It's been shown what can come of the images, but what they showed was nothing compared to the pornographic detail that was shown to us in one of my homeland security classes, have ver opt for an alternate method lol. I used to love flying, been flying since 8 months old, first time was in first class lol. However today's experiences are anything but enjoyable, it makes you feel like cattle, and TSA security measures are a joke. If I wanted to see a circus I'd go watch wringling bros.
 

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Got your license yet? Flying GA is totally different than the drab experiences of modern commercial air travel. :)
 

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Flying used to be nice.
My family went from Miami to L.A. via National, (DC10), then Pan Am 707 to Honolulu
non stop.
Fed real food both flights and beverages.

Now, want a drink of water, you get a cup of ice and wait for it to melt.

Spirit to Las Vegas in two weeks.

There was a loud argument about a broken seat recliner on the flight home.
Space invasion.

Now its a cattle call, or the airline???
 
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