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I've been toying with the idea of a second car, something more reliable and easier on gas...and I test drove a VR-4 this evening....all I can say is holy ****. I knew these things had guts, but not like this! I'm really considering it. It's a 92, has a little over 50k on it, jewel green, light grey leather, all options...asking $10,900. I'd be tempted even if I had to take the bird off the road for awhile. Right now, the only thing I'd be worried about...insurance. A call to my agent is DEFINETELY in order...so as of right now, I'm not gonna get too excited over it. Anyone else here own one of these machines?
 

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Reliable and easy on gas? :confused: Not in the least.

They're unreliable, high-maintenance, heavy, and expensive to repair. They look cool and drive decently, but be warned...when the transmission goes on you, you're not going to be a happy camper.
 

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A guy at work had one. Blew th erear main seal and couldn't drive the car for a few years. Eventually sold it like that once he paid it off. It was the only car he had ever taken a loan on and teh only one he has ever lost money on. This guy knows his stuff and very mechanically inclined and he gave up on it. Just somethign for you to think about.

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dont listen to these people. when you say VR-4 do you mean a Galant VR-4 or a 3000gt VR-4? both are excellent cars, even in stock form, with the galant vr-4 being the ultimate sleeper(4g63 in an everyday grocery getter).

of course people tend to only look at the negatives they hear from peoples mistakes. "oh such and suck blew this up, and this car has this wrong with it" oh but they dont tell you that "oh he used to redline it every where he went" or "oh he turned up the boost to 25lbs on stock motor and changed the oil twice in 10k miles".

i own a dsm. people say they are among the worst reliable cars ever. i have had her for 6 months and shes only spend maybe 4 full days in the shop. 2 for a new clutch install, and 2 for timing belt install. being said, the first month i had my bird the thing died, needed new spark plug wires and coils. month later the ecu fried itself, 1200 at ford and a good week there. couple months down the road it shat its first tranny, so theres another week for a rebuild and another 1200 bucks. and i babied the hell out of her except for the track, and look what i got back.

of course anytime you beat on a car its gonna beat you back, except for hondas, which you can redline at every gear and she will still start every time and last years. but thats beside the fact. if this car was well maintained and driven well it will be a good car.

obviosuly youre hooked on boost, so youre newfound addiction will undoubtedly lead to your every check being spent on go fast parts, and your next parts will be planned months ahead of time so your funds can be built up only to be depleted in one big paypal transaction to dsmparts.com.

sounds a little too expensive though, a 1st gen awd's go for around 3-4g's for good ones. i dont know if id spend 10,5 for a 92. hell even my eclipse was cheaper, had 57k for a 1997 GST spyder, and i only paid 7,5 for it. if you really like it, look for more in your area. too little miles on a older car can also be bad, meaning the seals and gaskets in the engine were not properly worn in, and may leak. for a 92 id look for one with around 80-100k on the clock, so a good 10k miles a year or so.
 

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probably the GTO (as it is known in Japan), yeah the VR-4 are high maintance and not easy on gas. A friend of mine had a black 92 but couldn't drive it for the longest time cause of the pile of list of parts that needed to be replaced.
 

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^^^lol my mommy says im special.


oh and btw, youre insurance on the 92 will be far less than for a V8 tbird, cause of the fact it has smaller displacement and is older. my tbird=90 bucks liability, my eclipse=60 full coverage(cause im financing). food for thought.
 

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^^^^^ what are you smoking? its a Twin turbo sports car. So what if you're eclipse is $60, this aint no eclipse. I'd expect your insurance to be much higher. But if you really want to be set on the vr-4 platform, id get a TT stealth. Same exact car minus the air ride suspension and all wheel steering if i recall
 

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...just a note, just did a quick quote over the net with my insurance provider....$1527/6 months on the VR-4....right now it's $660/6 months...
 

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my friends here got a 92 galant vr4 and that thing blast my other coworker's 93 rx7 twin turbo. need anymore info on that car let me know. i almost got that car 2 years ago but got my 94 bird instead. but i can tell you now that galant vr4 is a money pit...
 

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its a Twin turbo sports car. So what if you're eclipse is $60, this aint no eclipse. I'd expect your insurance to be much higher.
and it has been shown time and time again, insurance compaines dont even look at how many turbos is has. they look at

engine size
he still hasnt said if its a galant vr4 or a 3kGTvr4. vr4 is just another level of the car, be it the highest level that mitsus got in the day was vr4. galant vr4 is a 2.0 4g63, same as me. 3kGT are 3.2l v6 i thinkey.

# Of doors
galant vr4=4dr
3kGTvr4=2dr=little higher cause its a "sportscar"

trim package
vr4=top line. also might be less cause less mature owners could not afford the top of the line bells and whistles, so theyre less likely to total it and such. insurance for a 01 cobra is less than a 01 GT because of this fact. at least thats what allstate told my uncle.

and saying that an eclipse isnt a sportscar. yeah ok, youre driving around in "family coupe" tbird. you try and try to compete with other domestics but you will always fall short and have to compare your track times to stock civics. i on the other hand, compete with STi's, Evo's and SRT4's. i have taken 3 honda s2k's in my town. all i have just listed are sportscars. when my eclipse was made it was considered just that, it was turbocharged, small, and dam good looking. insurance for my car is just as much as a sportscar should be with a small dinky 2.0 and 2 doors, plus its convertible. you would think it to be higher, but nope, as long as the kiddies continue to wrap their GT's and camaros around streetpoles my insurance will continue its great rates.

the point? get a vr4, whatever it is, or the stealth tt as well. just dont pay 10 grand for one. its a dam 1992 dsm, its not worth more than 8 if its in great shape. i found a couple within 50 miles for 8 just right now. and heres some food for thought, if youre considering 10,5 for someting tt, try out a 1990-96 nissan 300zx TT. RWD+TT=fun. my freind just bought a 1990 n/a 300zx and its hella sick. gonna swap out the n/a motor(has 260k) for a built tt motor. or so he says, ill believe it when i see it. but they are nice cars, i like his alot, it has t-tops too, has a badass exhaust, sounds just like a GT when cruising.
 

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I like the VR-4. The last ones were capable of a nice four wheel burnout blast to 60mph in about 4.8 seconds. ;)
I won't own one though....The only Japanese car my money is on right now is a red Vortech blown 350Z roadster. ;)
 

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anyone wanna drive a 93 300zx tt? it's fun to drive too.:D

i should one day ask all of my friend's cars pose together to get a pic because i know some of you thinking i brag around with all my coworkers and friends car but no proof.
 

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good car if you are gentle on it....but play with it hard and expect a decent sized repair bill. I have seen several of these at the local shop getting new transmissions because 6 spd + all wheel drive + 4k rpm plus side stepping the clutch launches = bye bye tranny. you can't expect an stock transmission on a all wheel drive turbo vehicle to be able to handle that kind of a launch. Same principle as to why most WRX owners take off from the line rather slowly, with only a few risking a good hard launch.....things get expensive really quickly.
 

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youre driving around in "family coupe" tbird. you try and try to compete with other domestics but you will always fall short and have to compare your track times to stock civics.
Why are you even on this board? You ONLY talk **** about our cars. Suck a **** *****. Go somewhere else. Oh yeah, and my slow car would walk all over your Weaklipse, so what were you saying? Civics run 17's with bolt-ons. Maybe if you have a V6 MN12 you can compare quarter mile times. You're ***king stupid.

i on the other hand, compete with STi's, Evo's and SRT4's. i have taken 3 honda s2k's in my town.
Yep you're stupid. Your 15.3 second car can't hold a candle to those cars. Get a grip. If you compete with them, hell, I must smoke them. And we all know that's not true.

when my eclipse was made it was considered just that, it was turbocharged, small, and dam good looking.
Yeah that bubble shape is super stylish you t00l. Don't you think if we wanted a small, turbocharged, fugly car we would've gotten one?
 

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Why are you even on this board? You ONLY talk **** about our cars. Suck a **** *****. Go somewhere else. Oh yeah, and my slow car would walk all over your Weaklipse, so what were you saying? Civics run 17's with bolt-ons. Maybe if you have a V6 MN12 you can compare quarter mile times. You're ***king stupid.



Yep you're stupid. Your 15.3 second car can't hold a candle to those cars. Get a grip. If you compete with them, hell, I must smoke them. And we all know that's not true.



Yeah that bubble shape is super stylish you t00l. Don't you think if we wanted a small, turbocharged, fugly car we would've gotten one?
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Yep you're stupid. Your 15.3 second car can't hold a candle to those cars. Get a grip. If you compete with them, hell, I must smoke them. And we all know that's not true.
here, talk shyt that i cant compete with a STi.
www.ponypanels.com/zim/vids/MEvsSTi.mpg

oh yeah tuff guy. talk **** about stuff you know nothing about. my time was a 15.3 STOCK, with wheelspin through 1st and a little of 2nd. i now run more boost, have some exhaust stuff done, intake, hard IC piping, oh and i cant run at the track anymore. i need a rollcage after 14.99 cause its a convertible. f that.

civics run 17's with bolt ons? are you seriously that stupid to put every kid with a civic at that level. most civics run 17's, but then again, most civic owners dont know how to do a simple swap. a guy that works at my cousins shop has a 97 with a B18c5 swap with a mitsu 16g turbo setup, and has run 11's with everyting in his car. his setup cost him around 6g's for everything, engine, better tranny+lsd,turbo, fuel setup. thats one civic even corvettes would be scared of.

and why im here? i still have my tbird doofus. why would i get rid of it when ill be using it when the eclipse goes on the jacks for a new Big t28 turbo, 255lph pump, 650cc injectors, greddy safc2.

but i still have plans for her, its just easier to mod the eclipse now cause its cheaper and easier, and i really dont need a big car. but im going into a 2 year auto tech program up north of me, and i will be ase certified when i get out. i plan on doing a 5spd tranny swap, with a dohc GT engine, the vortech supercharging it, with forged internals. then she might be fun to drive again.
 

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BS you need to run 12 to need a rollcage in a convertable if not all conv GT stangs or vettes or camaros wouldnt be able to run on the track stock.
 

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ThomasR91169 said:
here, talk shyt that i cant compete with a STi.
www.ponypanels.com/zim/vids/MEvsSTi.mpg
*YAWN* What does that prove? That's not even your car I bet. No point wasting my time watching it.

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my time was a 15.3 STOCK, with wheelspin through 1st and a little of 2nd. i now run more boost, have some exhaust stuff done, intake, hard IC piping, oh and i cant run at the track anymore. i need a rollcage after 14.99 cause its a convertible.
So you haven't been to the track since and you're guessing you're gonna go into the 14's now. Well I got my L-MAF on, mufflers removed, and I could adjust my air pressure a bit. I'm not saying it would run quicker this time though. At least go and get one run in before you jump to conclusions. Oh yeah, and, how much top end do you have? Probably not enough.

ThomasR91169 said:
thats one civic even corvettes would be scared of.
Car & Driver (magazine) often talks about dumping $50k into a Civic and it still not being in Corvette territory. So your story, well, it sounds bunk man.

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and why im here? i still have my tbird doofus.
Sell it, please. You don't deserve it. All you do is talk smack about it anyway. Just shut (TF) up if you don't like our cars.

ThomasR91169 said:
i plan on doing a 5spd tranny swap, with a dohc GT engine, the vortech supercharging it, with forged internals. then she might be fun to drive again.
Who would do that to a piece of **** family coupe? Certainly not you, you don't even like it.

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BS you need to run 12 to need a rollcage in a convertable if not all conv GT stangs or vettes or camaros wouldnt be able to run on the track stock.
Point taken.
 
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