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For the guys here that have to drive there birds and cougars in the snow how much weight do you usually put in the back for traction??
 

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If its pretty bad, I might put a couple sand bags (50# each) in the trunk. but usually even that isn't necessary. The T-bird has always done great in the snow, at least for me.
 

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My last T-bird (a 97 V-6) had electronic Traction control. My current T-bird (a 97 V-8 Sport) has Trac-Loc.
 

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:) I dream of trak lock or traction control in snow spins like a mofo if i give her any I kinda overdid it i put like 300 lbs because i need all the traction i can get tomorrow morning when i go to work suppose to get like 10 inches of snow
 

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I dont have any weight in mine and have done fine even after getting a foot of snow in a day. With the open-diff.
 

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Mattscoug94 said:
:) I dream of trak lock or traction control in snow spins like a mofo if i give her any I kinda overdid it i put like 300 lbs because i need all the traction i can get tomorrow morning when i go to work suppose to get like 10 inches of snow

Ok, now breathe!! Got punctuation? :D
 

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I dont have any weight in mine and have done fine even after getting a foot of snow in a day. With the open-diff.

What kind of tires??
 

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Firestone Wilderness ATs out back.
 

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I have an OPEN 3.08 with T/A (which does worse than it helps...) and have only my subs/amp and a bunch of junk (insulated coveralls, etc) and I've never been stuck once. I've got some El Dorado Vision GTS's on there also (not the best tires by any means).

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2 70lb sand bags, 2 subs and an amp with the stock open diff. I've been looking to get some of the 15" wheels and mounting some blizzaks or something on them, do they help very much (my hometown has a way of not plowing the roads when it snows)
 

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On my T'bird I have Cooper Weathermaster tires on all fours. The rears are 215/70-15 with studs. I have used studless tires in the past ( Blizzaks and Graspics ) and was not pleased at all. Snow traction ( in my opinion ) was marginally ok, and ice traction just doesn't compare to a studded tire. In any deep snow, say over 6", you should have a dedicated snow tire with good lugs. They are noisey but get the job done. A good snow tire will dig and clean itself as well. The best snow tire I've ever used was called a Powerking. As for weight in the rear, I've found that having about 60-70lbs. worked best for me. I use two full size cinderblocks and place each one as far back in the trunk as I can and on each side of the wheel well. Also try to keep at least 3/4 of a tank of gas too. Having too much weight will cause too much ballast. It will be unstable brakeing and cornering, in both cases the rear will tend to "push out ". Just one more note, it is a good idea to have snows on all fours. You need the added traction up front for stopping power. The car will be unstable otherwise.
I hope this helps!! Happy Powersliding!! :D
 

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On my T'bird I have Cooper Weathermaster tires on all fours. The rears are 215/70-15 with studs. I have used studless tires in the past ( Blizzaks and Graspics ) and was not pleased at all. Snow traction ( in my opinion ) was marginally ok, and ice traction just doesn't compare to a studded tire. In any deep snow, say over 6", you should have a dedicated snow tire with good lugs. They are noisey but get the job done. A good snow tire will dig and clean itself as well. The best snow tire I've ever used was called a Powerking. As for weight in the rear, I've found that having about 60-70lbs. worked best for me. I use two full size cinderblocks and place each one as far back in the trunk as I can and on each side of the wheel well. Also try to keep at least 3/4 of a tank of gas too. Having too much weight will cause too much ballast. It will be unstable brakeing and cornering, in both cases the rear will tend to "push out ". Just one more note, it is a good idea to have snows on all fours. You need the added traction up front for stopping power. The car will be unstable otherwise.
I hope this helps!! Happy Powersliding!! :D
Thanks fo rthe advice. Considering where I live, there are times we'll get 6 inches at a time, or we'll have ice, or we'll have nothing at all. So should I go and get some 15's and some decent snow tires then since it's gonna 4 years before I'll have a winter driver?
 

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I usually have them mounted on seperate rims, that way, when it's time to use them, just throw them on, rims and all. I usually keep mine on all winter ( usually Nov. - May ). Then remove them for my summer tires.
 

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So should I go and get some 15's and some decent snow tires then since it's gonna 4 years before I'll have a winter driver?
Well it would be a great idea. But I know for myself Im in college now and cant afford a full set of studded tires, so I made a compromise. I have two Firestone AT truck tires out back with Nordic Wintertracs in the front and the car has good traction in both dry and icey/snowy conditions. Its not the best for either but if your on a tight budget I find its a great setup.
 

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The Cooper Weathermaster II's I have on the rear were $69.00 a peice + 15.00 a peice to stud. That was two years ago though. The Weathermaster I's I have on the front (a year older tire) was about $59.00 then. Blue LS, how does that compare to the price of your tires?
I'm just curious bud!! :D
 

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i use bridgestone blizzaks and no weight. no problem.
 

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When I lived in the snow belt I usually had three tube sand bags at 70 lbs. each. This was with a open 3.08 rear, stock suspension, stock wheels, and winter rubber (usually blizzacks). It seemed to do fine for me and thats for anything from an inch to 2 feet.

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Well idiot me i didnt have time to get the snow tires i have up in my garage put on so i gotta use my firehawks :) 235-60-15s
 
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