yes it is very hard what i say do is get yourself a second worker if you dont already have one,and you could try this procedure seems to work in my mind,attch the tranny back to the engine pull together as a unit that should clear yourproblem up ,pretty much,dont forget to drain your fuel tank and take out the driveshaft before pulling
tom

 

The secret is to have an 45 degree wrench and make sure it is a long one so you can out some a$$ on it.If I remember right it is a 9/16 but dont quote me on that.By taking the unit out as a whole it will be a pain,not quite enough room and you can seriously mess the tranny up.I would go get a long wrench with a swiwel head and a hammer.That is what I had to do.I did have one that I had to actually hit it with an air hammer,it broke it loose and then I continued to take it out with the wrench.
Good Luck,
Chris

 

Are you using the access hole on the right side of the trans? There is a large access hole with a large black rubber "plug" in it that allows you easy access to the 14mm nuts. I used a 6 point socket with a short extension on mine.

 

yes it is very hard what i say do is get yourself a second worker if you dont already have one,and you could try this procedure seems to work in my mind,attch the tranny back to the engine pull together as a unit that should clear yourproblem up ,pretty much,dont forget to drain your fuel tank and take out the driveshaft before pulling
tom

WHAT???

Are you using the access hole on the right side of the trans? There is a large access hole with a large black rubber "plug" in it that allows you easy access to the 14mm nuts. I used a 6 point socket with a short extension on mine.

Huh? Where is the plug? Im getting to them by the inspection plate.

LX Tasy - How were you holding the engine from turning? Just by the crank bolt?

This is just pissing me off now. I just cant get them to break loose. What can you damage by pulling it out with the TC still on it?

 

I pulled my engine out and put it back in, twice, with the TC attached to the flex plate. When you put it back in, you just have to make sure the angle of the engine and torque converter are the same.

 

so my idea will work? just make sure the engine slides straight off the input shaft of the trans?

I may try it, To put it bad together im gonna just put the TC on the input shaft and then drop the engine in.

 

OK, you know where the starter is, right? Well, on the opposite side of the block there is an access hole covered by a rubber plug where you can get to the nuts on the TC studs. TRUST ME... this hole is cast into EVERY 4.6L block and it is about 3 inches in diameter which is plenty of room.

I would not recomend pulling the engine with the TC still attached to the flexplate, this could damage your pump seal as well as the TC and the input shaft to your trans. Not saying that it WILL happen, I'm just saying it is a strong possability.

 

yes you can leave the tc on the flexplate and angle it so that it slides off then pull it out. or you can pull the trans with it, but there is no way in hell you need to drain the tank or pull the driveshaft to do this.

 

Keith,

did the TC just pull right off the shaft on the trans? And to do this, did you unbolt the motor mounts from the 1 large bolt on the bottom or the 3 that hold it to the engine?

 

I also do not recommend pulling the engine with tc attached. use the access plug on the drivers side... with that opening and a good size breaker bar you shouldnt have much trouble. the bolts are on tight but you can get them off.

 

j- yea it came right off. and for the motor mounts, our dumb asses didnt notice the one easy to get to bolt so we took the 3 out from the block. make it easy on yourself take the one bolt out, i think youll have to move the ps pump and the ac unit out the way to get at them but once thoes are moved its cake.

 

I'm just posting this to be posting something.... But I pulled My Entire engine with my Transmission still attached... SO I HOPE it can be pulled out with less things than that attached.....

I just wish I had taken pictures of it when I did

 

I already unbolted the easy to get to bolts.


I will have to look and find that other hole. Because I cant get ahold of anything very well through that inspection plate. The damn oil pan is in the way. So all I can get in there was a little 3/8" breaker bar like 7" long.

 

I already unbolted the easy to get to bolts

You are turning the motor in order to line up each nut in the inspection plate right? (you do have nuts not bolts correct?). I find it easier to tap the end of the wrench with a BFH in order to loosen the nuts. If you are doing a motor swap I would remove the trans/motor as a unit to make it eaiser to re-join the trans to the motor because that's were the most "fun" will be had. Don't pull the motor with the TC attached to the flexplate that would be Badd.. MMMkay?

yes it is very hard what i say do is get yourself a second worker if you dont already have one,and you could try this procedure seems to work in my mind,attch the tranny back to the engine pull together as a unit that should clear yourproblem up ,pretty much,dont forget to drain your fuel tank and take out the driveshaft before pulling

Dude, whatever your on please share.

 

OK, then as far as pulling the engine and trans together. Do I just disconnect the shifter and trans mount then pull it out? The driveshaft just slides out of the tailshaft of the trans?

Im gonna try getting to the nuts (yes they are nuts and not bolts) tonight from that 3" hole on the drivers side. If no luck is there, then I may pull the engine and trans. I dont really want to but might do it.

 

I suggest you try your best to get just the engine out by itslelf... Its a Pain to pull both at the same time.... Its kinda big and bulky all together.... I had an overheard hoist to do it with (not a cherry picker engine jack) Yes the Driveshaft will slip out of the trans and then you'll have 10 quarts of tranny fluid on the floor... I used an old Slip yolk to slide on the tailshaft to keep the oil from leaking out......

Some things to think about when Pulling tranny with engine... Exhaust, is it in the way,mine is... Electrical components make sure they are all disconnected ( or you'l end up like me cutting crap up ) ... Do you have enough room to pull it out with ( i'm talking about removing the Radiator and front accessories) I'm sure there are a junk load of other small things to keep in mind when pulling them both.... I've done it twice and it was no fun either time...Its easier with help.... But if you like me I want help to do what i say and not give opinions(especially when they have no idea about what they are talking about) You can pull it by yourself but its not easy( easy to damage stuff).....

Anyway try your best to just pull what you need to pull and not everything.... Remember what you pull out has to be put back in and Putting them both back in together is a tad harder than it is to pull

 

I find it easier to tap the end of the wrench with a BFH in order to loosen the nuts.

I love that! :uppoint:

Kind of like my "attach jackhandle to wrench for leverage" mod? lol

And BlackTbird96,
I pulled my combo out together, it's actually pretty easy. disconnect the shifter linkage, undo the electrical connections, drain the fluid, undo the mounts and pull
If you want to do just the engine, with the TC nuts off it should be pretty easy. Just be sure to support the trans in the front when you pull it.

 

hahahahahahaha......

 

I like the "kick the crap out of the breaker bar" method but it didn't work. Maybe I should get an air hammer. That might work.
:uppoint:

 

well its like this you gotta turn the crank to align the bolts,to where you can barley get a wrench in their and take them out,but at the same time you have to have someone holding the "harmonic balancer bolt",for leverage ,gotta take the fuel tank out first before you take out the driveshaft ,mark your drive with some cool red nail polish "i personally like the hot colors you can see the mark real good " .

 

well its like this you gotta turn the crank to align the bolts,to where you can barley get a wrench in their and take them out,but at the same time you have to have someone holding the "harmonic balancer bolt",for leverage ,gotta take the fuel tank out first before you take out the driveshaft ,mark your drive with some cool red nail polish "i personally like the hot colors you can see the mark real good " .

and why are we talking about taking out the driveshaft???

 

sorry i forgot to add if he wants to just bolt the tranny back up he could just simply pull them both out at the same time ,instead of jacking your car up and lowering the tranny down, "his original thought"whatever way workz.it does save time pulling them together!

tom

 

Well anyways, I got 3 of the 4 nuts off. I think the trans shop put them on with an impact because they are on there really good and 3 of the bolts are rounded off pretty good. One have 1 more to go and it is soaking in oil tonight. But I also got all the bolt around the bellhousing loose. And I only spent a half hour on it

So after another half hour I should have it on the hoist. (I hope) But it will have to wait until tomorrow. But things are starting to look really good. This weekend the new engine should go in now.

 

Im lost now dude..

why are you putting in a new engine?

 

Im lost now dude..

why are you putting in a new engine?

hehe Its a long long story and may reasons.